Hi again Lucas! and any other listers who might help,

This letter has to do with my efforts to set up smtpmail to send out
mail using gmail.

What I have in my .emacs under
;smtp stuff is very much like yours. Here it is:

;smtpstuff
(setq user-mail-address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
      (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
(setq smtpmail-default-server nil)
      (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp.gmail.com")
      (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 587);you had `25; but gmail.com     specifies 
`465' or 587'
          (setq smtpmail-debug-info t);
   (setq smtpmail-debug-verb t);


The last line helped me as follows:

When I tried to send mail by  typing C-c C-c

the *Messages* buffer told me simply that sending failed, smtp
protocol error

But the trace of smtp session told me that:
Starttls has to be started. (This additional info appears after the
last line in the "smtp-stuff is included)

So I checked that starttls had indeed been succesfully installed 5
minutes earlier by doing 
`which starttls'  . Then I ran a shell command starttls in the
minibuffer and did C-c C-c again. No joy! I have  a feeling that
another line of lisp code is needed to start starttls. 

Can you figure out what I am doing wrong?

Cheers.
Kalyan
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