To say it bluntly, God, please kill me now. Or, stop this moron from saying another word.
Everyone, I think you've already given him enough encouragement. Too much blabbering with no value. How about another suggestion: a moderator for this list. Chad C. http://www.codeplex.com/site/users/view/Phusion On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 4:09 AM, jason <ja...@i-build-websites.co.uk> wrote: > Dan, > > > > If you would like to pay me and my team to spend time on it, then fine. > > > > I think we have shown, via a few quick emails, some 'quick wins' that can > push orchard forward from today. > > > > I like plans, feasibility studies, competitive analysis, budgets, due > diligence and all those things but I also like > > quick wins. > > > > Perhaps the Microsoft coders, who work on orchard can run down to > marketing and say 'we need someone in our team, to work on orchard, > weekends and evenings, like us' and watch them stare at the coders ! :) > > > > Jason > www.i-build-websites.co.uk > > 07415 46 15 87 > skype:jasonpalmer1971 > > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the > individual to whom it is addressed It may contain privileged and > confidential information. If you have received this message in error or > there are any problems, please notify the sender immediately and delete the > message from your computer. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or > alteration of this message is prohibited. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dan Schlossberg [danschlossb...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 10 November 2012 20:06 > *To:* orchard-discuss@lists.outercurve.org > *Subject:* Re: the orchard cms pitch > > Very nice G. > > Jason, if u want to be taken seriously, you'll deliver something like > this. With a real marketing plan, not a couple of sound bites and > inspirational quotes. > > Marketing plans include words like channel, segment, persona, > crowdsourcing, roi, metrics, marginal cost of customer acquisition, etc. > > we look forward to your next submission. :) > > > Dan Schlossberg > Chief Software Craftsman > www.softwaresingularity.com > (m) 678.361.6960 > > Sent from my iPhone. > > On Nov 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Andrej Gono <andrej.g...@millennium.sk> > wrote: > > http://www.showorchard.com/ > > > > > > *From:* Nuno Duarte [mailto:nmdua...@gmail.com <nmdua...@gmail.com>] > *Sent:* Saturday, November 10, 2012 7:52 PM > *To:* orchard-discuss@lists.outercurve.org > *Subject:* Re: the orchard cms pitch > > > > Hi, > > > > I Think there should be on the Orchard WebSite a list that references to > real world production websites made using Orchard CMS (something where we > could reference our work). > > Also on the Orchard Website Home Page there should be a list of companies > that are using orchard (mainly the big ones). > > A lot of people look at orchard but doens´t really believe on the product, > this way (stated above) i believe we could improve the marketing strategy. > > > > Nuno. > > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 5:26 PM, jason <ja...@i-build-websites.co.uk> > wrote: > > The way I look at it.... the pitch for orchard should be something like. > > > > 'A great and cleanly designed cms, with microsoft technology, great for > learning c# coding backed by superb Microsoft programmers'... thats the > pitch to the tech community... > > > > Pitch to user community would be something like.... > > > > 'New, smooth, advanced cms with all the features you need in the modern > world'... > > > > People do not really need a zillion modules, they just need to do a few > things like > > > > -contact form > > -facebook integration > > -map integration > > -video > > -blog > > -mailing list management > > > > so, for coders, it is 'nice to use, work with, clean' , perhaps could be > plugged with video or something when people join > > website spark ? > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark/ > > > > The wordpress website is 100% marketing on the front page, orchard looks > 100% technie in development, really needs > > just a little tweak there. > > > > I would push it as 'wordpress that old thing, orchard the new better > thing'. > > > > Any thoughts on this ? > > > > > Jason > www.i-build-websites.co.uk > > 07415 46 15 87 > skype:jasonpalmer1971 > > > > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the > individual to whom it is addressed It may contain privileged and > confidential information. If you have received this message in error or > there are any problems, please notify the sender immediately and delete the > message from your computer. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or > alteration of this message is prohibited. > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Kris van der Mast [kris.vanderm...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 10 November 2012 14:01 > *To:* orchard-discuss@lists.outercurve.org > *Subject:* Re: i propose i join orchard as the marketing guy > > Hi, > > > > Orchard CMS could for sure use a bit more awareness. In your mail I didn't > quite get the meaning of why things like the Bill and Melinda Gates > foundation and Ghandi were pushed in and how they relate to Orchard CMS. If > you could explain so please do. > > > > Marketing is about AIDA (Attention, Interest, Desire, Action), how you're > going to make people aware of the existence of your product, make them > interested in it and ultimately going to use/purchase it. Orchard Harvest, > and the uploaded videos on youtube, were a good form of such awareness > creation. As a shameless plug I might state that I also did so by giving a > Microsoft (Belgium) live meeting last year about it and a couple of weeks > ago I had a presentation about Orchard in Milan, Italy. > > > > The feedback I heard there from the local community is that Orchard is > interesting but that it lacks a great deal of interesting > modules/plugins/themes. WordPress already does have a rich ecosystem. Also > it's hard to make new modules compared with for example Umbraco (never used > that myself but I heard it from one of my attendees who has made quite a > lot of implementations with it for his company). > > > > Grz, Kris. > > > > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Johan Pieterse < > johan.piete...@microsoft.com> wrote: > > Jason, I apologize for shooting to quick from the hip. > > I agree, expose your ideas. Marketing is a difficult business nowadays. > > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ------------------------------ > > *From: *Dan Schlossberg > *Sent: *10/11/2012 15:32 > *To: *orchard-discuss@lists.outercurve.org > *Subject: *Re: i propose i join orchard as the marketing guy > > > > Come on dude, u can't give us that easy!! > > > > Tell us what you marketing plan is going to be. How it will benefit the > product, the community, the world. > > > > At least tell us how old you are! > > > Dan Schlossberg > > Chief Software Craftsman > > www.softwaresingularity.com > > (m) 678.361.6960 > > > > Sent from my iPhone. > > > On Nov 10, 2012, at 3:31 AM, jason <ja...@i-build-websites.co.uk> wrote: > > ok. will drop out and push kentico, how do i unsubscribe from this list ? > > > > > Jason > www.i-build-websites.co.uk > > 07415 46 15 87 > skype:jasonpalmer1971 > > > > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the > individual to whom it is addressed It may contain privileged and > confidential information. If you have received this message in error or > there are any problems, please notify the sender immediately and delete the > message from your computer. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or > alteration of this message is prohibited. > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Johan Pieterse [jo...@webspot.co.za] > *Sent:* 10 November 2012 07:28 > *To:* orchard-discuss@lists.outercurve.org > *Subject:* RE: i propose i join orchard as the marketing guy > > +1 > ------------------------------ > > *From: *Arra J. Derderian > *Sent: *10/11/2012 01:27 > *To: *orchard-discuss@lists.outercurve.org > *Subject: *RE: i propose i join orchard as the marketing guy > > Who is this clown? > > > > Arrs > > > > Sent from Windows Mail > > > > *From:* jason > *Sent:* November 9, 2012 4:21 PM > *To:* orchard-discuss@lists.outercurve.org > *Subject:* i propose i join orchard as the marketing guy > > > > I have been coding since I was 14, I like to code a bit now, but I > understand a bit more about marketing as well. > > > > My mentor is the ceo of a quoted firm, he says* a balanced team is key*, > I would be proud to be associated > > with orchard microsoft, I say up with the bill and melinda foundation. > > > > up with orchard, i have a team of people behind me as well, in coding, > marketing, publishing, film etc. > > > > I see bill and melinda making the world a better place, I do not see this > with wordpress. > > > > gandhi tastic > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qd-fAnHjPg > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Met vriendelijke groeten, Bien à vous, Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Kind > regards, > > > Kris van der Mast > Microsoft MVP ASP.NET <http://asp.net/>/IIS <http://www.iis.net/>, ASP > Insider <http://aspinsiders.com/Insiders.aspx>, Windows Azure Insider, > Microsoft > Extended Experts > Team<http://msdn.microsoft.com/nl-be/hh560770#krisvandermast>member > > Blog: http://blog.krisvandermast.com/, Twitter: > @KvdM<http://www.twitter.com/KvdM> > > Board member of azug <http://www.azug.be/>.be, Cloud Computing Competence > Center Leader @ Ordina Belgium <http://www.ordina.be/> > > > > > >
