1- You state:

 " I suggest that Jose review the history of the past 20 years and see how
many exceptions he can
cite..." 

You are correct to say that at least in the last 20 years no EVP has peen
passed over. There have been instances where members of the Executive
Committee  have been replaced  and removed from the "line of succession" .
in at least one case, the person involved was elected latter and was raised
to the AOS Presidency. [Note: I have reviewed more than 30 years of AOS
history.]

In my opinion, the fact that the long-held "tradition" was not followed may
point to powerful reasons by the Nominating Committee to do so, which may
include the perception that the person rejected  was not able to work with
the Board. But here I am speculating, the only ones that can answer are the
members of said committee and they are between the proverbial rock and a
hard place as ethics may prevent them from revealing their private
discussions.

2- You state 

"The post of executive ice president provides a period of training and
opportunity to view the
performance of the individual and to prepare the candidate. In that same
vein, the
post of executive vice-president normally has been filled by someone who
immediately previously was serving as one of the two vice presidents or  as
treasurer. To conclude that someone who has served in several senior
positions
including two years as executive vice president suddenly is not deemed to be
the
logical candidate for the next presidency is bizarre not impossible but very
unlikely. 

Yes , the position  allows the person to be evaluated and his/her virtues 
as well as shortcomings be revealed . 

Hard as it may sound..there is a saying that states that the higher you go
on a stepladder , the more obvious your shortcomings  will be Maybe it took
all those periods of service to demonstrate that the person in question had
reach the top level of competence and that promoting him for the sake of
tradition. Again we are speculating. Only the committee members know why.

3- You state:

"A nominating committee certainly has every right to reach such a conclusion
.." 

This I don't understand : They have the power and the right and yet you
pilloried them for doing what is their  right.   


4- You state:

 "In no previous instances of the Nominating Committee's proposing one
of their own were the obvious consequences so predictably highly
controversial
and divisive, nor was the likely adverse effect on tenuous AOS finances so
clear."


 So lets see if I got this one right:  as long  a group favorite is not
touched ...the process of nominating a member of the Committee  was not bad.

Please be more specific on the "adverse damages" claim. 

 So who decides on the "highly controversial' tag? I for one can say , I
have received an equal number of pro and anti Bronstein e-mails with many of
the cons being very vehement against the man. So I am left  with the
conclusion that controversy was going to follow this nomination regardless.
But this is my opinion and not fact.

5- You state : " There is indeed nothing in the by-laws that requires or
suggests that
the Executive Vice President will become the next president.. " 

So why all the brouhaha?

Here is where I am finding a disturbing pattern...  The person selected over
Mr Bronstein is Art Moore not Taylor Slaughter , nor Jim Rassmann...

So what is so controversial  about Art Moore? Is he not qualified other than
he is not Mr Bronstein? Where are the conflicts of interest in his
selection?

Most of the arguments against Mr Moore selection that I have heard and that
I have received are against Mr Rassmann and they include attacks on his
personality and his politics ( specific that he is supporting John Kerry).
So I  am getting the impression that the proxy fight exists inasmuch as it
is a proxy fight ( Mr Moore being the screen) against Mr Rassmann.


So again I ask  what are the facts that can be raised against  the
individual members of the proposed slate . Facts , not innuendo


Finally you state:

" I stated explicitly that the nominating committee may or may not have been
well-advised in passing over the incumbent executive vide president. "

Dave were they well advised or not?  On this issue you cannot have it both
ways. 

"No one questions their prerogative to do so, and they certainly are not
supposed to be a rubber stamp...."
 
 As to the questioning  of their prerogative you among others are just doing
that. Again you cannot have it both ways.


 "What I am saying is that the substitutions they made have given rise to
all sorts of harmful
rumors of self-serving and conflicts of interest that are doing great harm
to
the AOS, and that a nominating committee should be reconvened to pick a
slate
that is not vulnerable to such allegations."

Please read what you wrote... Who is guilty of the harmful rumors ( Isnt
that inuendo?) : The committee , the proposed slate? IMHO the people that
should be asked to respond and be rejected are those spouting the "harmful"
( your word , not mine) rumors , not the victims of said rumors.


 "By rejecting the currently proposed slate, there would have to be such a
reconvening. I would expect and hope that some of the nominees of the first
slate would reappear on the second, since
some of them are not objects of  controversy"

Allow me a personal comment.. this last statement is wishfull thinking on
your part. 


 I am not opposed to democracy as a detractor's  e-mail accused me. 

I have no objection to conmtested elections. 

What I do wory is that in the name of saving the AOS from James Rassmann
[and lets be honest about this the whole fight boils down to that: it is not
Art Moore, and the others people oppose..It is Rasmmann] more damage will be
done.

 Do I make clear, Dave?

Jose A. Izquierdo
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