In a message dated 7/15/04 11:04:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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> Sorry Mike...Speaking as one who has had to put up with all these things 
> for
> far too many years...and to NOT get political...YOU ARE WRONG

Wrong about what?  I have never posted a single opinion - here or anywhere 
else - about the "wisdom" or "justice" of Arias's and Norris's situation.  I 
have posted comments on general politics only very rarely, and based on your 
comments, it's obvious you've paid no attention to them at all.  As for Arias and 
Norris, I do have my opinions, but see no point in jabbering about them on the 
web and in listserve emails.  It'd do them no good, and I have better things 
to do with my time.  Hell, I have better things to do than type this reply!

If you don't like CITES or the Lacey Act, or the prosecution of foreign 
nationals under the latter, and want to do something with any purpose at all, vote 
in elections based on fact and proven track record rather than emotion and 
rhetoric, sign petitions, write to your Senators, write to your Represenatives, 
write to USFWS, hell, write to the President and the Director of Homeland 
so-called Security himself!  Any of that would serve far more purpose than yammerin
g away semi-coherently in orchid forums.

As for this thread: please tell me you're not engaging in yet more amateur 
legal analysis based on wishful thinking.  Whether or not you think the Lacey 
Act and/or CITES, etc. ad nauseam, are WISE laws and treaties, they are 
perfectly LEGAL laws and treaties.  Whether one approves of Arias's arrest and 
prosecution or not, they were perfectly legal under generally accepted precepts of 
international law.  Period.  Full stop.  End of discussion.  That's a-a-a-ll, 
folks!

This has gone beyond silly.  If you're suggesting I'm wrong about the 
legality under international law of Arias's arrest and/or prosecution, prove it!  If 
you do, I will happily review any accepted legal authority you cite and if by 
some wild chance I've gotten my wires crossed on this one, I will gladly, if 
somewhat abashedly, stand corrected.  Any other replies I will ignore, I've 
wasted too much time on this thread as it is.

Michael Gerzog
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