Kenneth, to loose the knowledge of Dr Braem from the list is indeed a great loss. Given the reasons and to the extent and content of the messages sent and received over recent times, I feel that there should be half a dozen others leaving as well. Particularly for the reasons that those prevoking the heated debates etc have yet to provide ANY credible information or discussion to the list. As you noted, Dr. Braem has the score on the board for knowledge and publications. Those on the other side have yet to prove they have any actual knowledge in any thing, let alone orchids. I, for one, put it too those applauding Dr. Braems departure, though I accept the wording of some of the message may offend many to cause this applause, PUT UP or SHUT UP, start putting your knowledge to the test. I think that this may be too much to ask. Those that speak the loudest usually have the least to offer. ROY
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