[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Subject: > [OGD] Cincinnati Judging Center > From: > hoosier orchid company <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: > Thu, 02 Sep 2004 12:30:26 -0500 > To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Tennis, > > I am a Judge at the Cincinnati Center (as you know). I believe in > accountability for AOS Judges, but we cannot be accountable for the > unknown. You have made numerous posts over the years about plants of > yours and others which have been passed over for Awards. To date I > have not seen one fact or one species/hybrid named by you. So please > feel free to enlighten us. Name names. Which Judges have you voiced > your concerns to ? Which plants have been passed and what were the > reasons given ? In Cincinnati anyone is invited to sit in on Judging. > At the end of each Judging anyone present can ask questions as to why > certain plants were not awarded and real answers are given to the > owner based on facts and research, and specific qualities of the plant > which did not meet the criteria. Everyone has had a plant which they > feel should have been awarded and was not. We make mistakes. We are > human. I only ask that you give us the chance to answer your questions > before you trash us on an open forum. So, enlighten us. We can not > deal with the unknown species 'x' which was not awarded because we are > 'stupid' or 'scared', this is paranoid nonsense. Give me real facts > and situations and I will try to help. I will openly invite anyone to > come and visit us in Cincinnati, or contact me personally with any > problems or questions they have about Cincinnati Judging. > > Best > > Erich Michel > > Hoosier Orchid Company > 8440 West 82nd Street > Indianapolis, IN 46278-1062 USA > 317 291-6269, 888 291-6269 > Fax: 317 291-8949 > www.hoosierorchid.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Erich- Actually, I did not know that you are a judge. I had heard you were in the program which I took to mean you were in training. My post was not a personal attack on you if that was how you interpreted it. I have posted not only names of plants but links to pics as well, even so far as asking for comparisons with plants in the AQ. I HAVE detailed actual instances, along with specific information and statements made by judges. Do not state that I have not - that is untrue. I have documented judges' ignorance, ego, and unprofessionalism many times. It is a difficult issue for me as I have friends who are judges and seem to take every statement about the judging program personally. I really don't have the time and energy to do it all again just now - no more flame wars at this point for me - the last few have worn me and, I think, the OGD, out. If you wish to discuss this further, please do so offlist. I will not reply here to this again. Tennis
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