Mr. Baxter writes: "It sounds little to me like George's well known proclivity to talk excessively might have contributed to his problem. I would suspect that he was under watch for more than Carnivore randomly picking him up. After reading hundreds of his posts I would suspect there were more key words that could be picked up that something as obscure as Kovachii.
This is the sort of abuse that is allowed now that we have uninformed environmentalists who think they are saving the planet by cheering when such evil doers as George are brought to justice and made to pay the price." Pardon my ignorance, but I do not see how computer Surveillance software created for a conservative, non-environmentalist administration, or how overzealous enforcement of a flawed international agreement by agents of the same administration are somehow connected to environmentalists. Perhaps you could explain this. I also wonder if there any environmentalists stupid enough to assume they are "saving the planet by cheering...". The claims made by environmental groups, and academic institutions regarding the effects of habitat degradation and plant collection on species diversity are the result of carefully done and well funded studies (though there is a need for much more research, and certainly more funding). They are very different from the disingenuous claims made by the right wing which are often based on funding by special interests, outmoded religious paradigms, and a disregard for anything outside of their immediate visual field. I do not know Mr. Norris personally, but have seen in his postings on this forum and in private e-mail to me, a disturbing mean spiritedness, misogyny, and xenophobia. Despite this I would agree that probation would be a better punishment for his crime than a long prison term. If in fact the intentionally misidentified plants in question were nursery propagated rather than freshly collected, than his crime becomes one of convenience, and should be treated as such. Dennis Westler
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