Viateur, two messages adding to my comment about Odont crispum, one by Iris ( mess' 2) the other by Dennis (mes' 6) say it all. I don't know where your coming from with these "varieties" of crispum. The facts are that line breeding of ANY genera creates superior flowers. As Dennis comments, the RHS paintings of collected Odont crispum compared to the line bred crispum, which you must have seen in the awards books from the USA and other countries, cannot compete. The references you ask about are all over the world in photos on the web, awards books, catalogs, show benches. Sorry if you have missed them. A close friend of mine has been breeding Odontoglossums ( including crispum ) for over 50 ( fifty ) years now and has produced some of the best clones ever to flower. If you are up with species grower his name may ring a bell. Gerald McCraith. By the way, have a look at the line breeding done with ( for simplicity ) VANDA sanderiana. If you compare todays flowers with wild collected ones, do yourself a favour and have a look. ROY
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