Apparantly not as good as the real thing. Getting OT from the Onc. cebolleta...what a whacked site, morning glory seeds have many physical side effects, not a purely cerebral effect. Might as well get atropine inebriation from Datura or Brugmannsia, the margin for error is very slim. You'd still get at least an upset stomach. I'll stick with Sally. Not a real hallucinogen, at least in non-distilled form.
----- Original Message ----- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:56:16 +1100 From: "Stuart Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [OGD] Oncidium cebolleta To: "the OrchidGuide Digest \(OGD\)" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ok by googling i found at http://boards.cannabis.com/archive/index.php/t-8484.html Delta9 Dec-22-2004, 21:50 "Abstract- A memeber of the family Orchidacea, Oncidium cebolleta, is used by the Tarahumara Indians of northern Mexico as a temporary replacement for peyote. We have found it to contain the known compounds: 2,7-dihydroxy-3,4,6-trimethoxyphenanthrene; 2,7-dihydroxy-3,4,6-trimethoxy-9,10-dihydrophenanthrene; 2,3-dihydroxy-4,7,8-trimethoxyphenanthrene; and the new compounds: 2,7-dihydroxy-3,4-dimethoxyphenanthrene; and 2,7-dihydroxy-4,8-dimethoxyphenanthrene." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Delta9 Dec-22-2004, 22:02 "The Tarahumara Indians of northern Mexico use a number of hallucinogenic plants in religious ceremonies and were one of the first peoples to gain publicity for their used of Lophophora williamsii (peyote). Along with other plants, one important tempory replacement for peyote among the Tarahumara is Oncidium cebolleta. The whole green leaf is said to be consumed after it is crushed in water. This member of the so called "rat-tail" of Oncidium orchids was one of the first introduced from the Carribean Islands into Europe for culture. It was reported that 'the natives use it externally...crushed with salt...wherein it has agreat reputation [in treatment] of serious contusions, bone fractures, and other diseases'" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Will someone please answer my question about Oncidium ceboletta and please have me stop wasting my time wading through all this other stuff? > >> > So, what part of Oncidium cebolleta is eaten, and what is the > > ethnological source and details of this practice? > > > > Bonaventure Magrys > > Cliffwood Beach, NJ > > USA zone 7 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [email protected] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
