[OGD] Fw: Fraud and a Coward Troublemaker

[icones]

From: OGD To: the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [OGD] Fraud and a Coward Troublemaker Guido,   Sorry not to answer sooner but I have been away. I feel compelled to set the record straight on some of your comments. My comments follow yours. > 1) This has nothing to do with the markianum and tigrinum case >True, but the claimed circumstances are the same, just reversed. No in the markianum/tigrinum case there was PRINTED MATERIAL Yes, there was ultimately printed material, BUT that was not what you and Fowlie tried to base your date on. The date you tried to use was the date of a fax sent out prior to publication which would have given your name priority. > 2) What did you receive - a Pdf file per email or a printed journal >PDF file   Exactly . A fileby electronic means .... That settles it ... not a valid publication. (Article 29)   Again you neither read nor comprehended what I said. What I said was that the publication could have been printed and distributed AND also sent out as a PDF file. This would make it a legal publication and would have priority over your name. > 3) when did you receive it.        >March 25, 2006         Excellent ... That is also the date that has been confirmed. Chironiella was effectively published on March 14th. No again! If the proper publication was made in February then your name will not be accepted. If however only PDF files were sent out before your publication date then your name will have priority.... > But when you received something by email. Then the affair is finished > because the code explicitly states that dissemination by electronic > means is not valid publication.     >No again, because publication via legal means can occur and then electronic     >copies may be distributed also. Don't know if this is the case in this     >instance, but just your claim that the name is not proper does not make it     >so. It is just your opinion until proven correct or false.     Have you seen a printed copy? No ... There is none. That is not my opinion, that is fact I have not seen a printed copy as yet, however Dalton Holland Baptista says he has one so it looks like they exist. > 5) Again why do you confuse issues by not stating the facts.     I don't confuse any issues and I try always to state only facts, not     conjectures as you do.     So why did you not say to begin with that you got a pdf file per email. Why did you make people believe you have received the printed article Because unlike you I believe people are basicly honest and that the publication was made in accordance with the rules. Until proven otherwise, and your rantings prove nothing, I will continue to believe so. <>> 6) again put your name to it. Don't be an anonymous trouble maker. >I think everyone knows who the trouble maker is! First off, I try to never cause any trouble and secondly, to be as helpful as I can to other people on this list.  As I have said before my name has nothing to do with your difficulties with some of your published names, that is totally your doing.   icones

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