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CITES proposal for nursery certification,  By Jerry Lee Fischer 07,01,07


To all interested in the subject of Orchid 
species and hybrids as imports or exports,

Recent changes in CITES requirements have made it 
difficult for nurseries, and hobbyists alike to 
not only import plants from foreign countries 
directly but even acquire them from nurseries in 
the country in which hobbyists and professional growers live.

In the US for example the requirements are that a 
nursery must now have a master permit. Every 
plant to be exported whether it is a species or 
hybrid must be approved by the US Fish and 
Wildlife authorities with information on the 
propagation methods (whether from seed, cuttings 
or cloning techniques) if not then whom the 
plants were purchased from with receipts, pot 
sizes of plants in stock, annual production, 
number of plants to be exported each year, 
whether parental stock is maintained and how 
many, from seed or cuttings etc. and number of years in production.

Imagine filling out such a permit (in my case it 
took 250 hours) and then imagine it taking 9 
months to a year to get it. The idea is that once 
you get this permit single issue copies are 
purchased in advance and the nursery owner can 
fill them out when orders are received and ship 
them out rather quickly compared to the old 
system of waiting 3-6 months for a single use 
permit. In the mean time orders cannot be 
processed and commercial growers are put in 
situation of economic hardship. Adding any new 
plants to your permit requires all the same 
detailed information, costs a lot and there is no 
guarantee that the permits will arrive in a 
timely manner. Several US growers have given up 
on exports and many more will follow suit.

Hybrids have become another problem, as one has 
to either be approved for specific hybrids on the 
master permit or have to be approved for specific 
species that make up the hybrid. At the moment 
you have to list on your permit the species that 
make up the hybrids that you want to export. This 
takes a great deal of time and is really 
counterproductive. It often requires 20 to 35 
hours to complete a permit. The US Fish and 
Wildlife service has come up with a way of 
amending your permit to accept hybrids but it 
still requires reporting and is limited to certain hybrids.

The various countries management authorities and 
CITES officials are, I believe unaware of the 
great advances in the laboratory production of 
orchids that have taken place within the past few 
years. Nurseries are now able to reproduce in 
reasonable numbers those plants that were once 
considered difficult or even impossible to 
produce. The continued over-regulation of 
artificially propagated plants and the nurseries 
that produce them is in my opinion a complete 
waste of CITES resources. The entire reason CITES 
was created in the first place was to protect 
wild populations of living organisms that were 
threatened by trade. This is what it says in the 
first paragraph on 
<http://www.cites.org/>www.cites.org home page, 
“CITES (the Convention on International Trade in 
Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora) is an 
international agreement between governments. Its 
aim is to ensure that international trade in 
specimens of wild animals and plants does not 
threaten their survival.” If anything the rapid 
artificial production and propagation of orchid 
plants helps to ensure that wild stock will 
remain where it is. Many of our nurseries are 
really no longer trading in wild stock at all. Why over-regulate it?

Recent examples of how things have changed can be 
found in PERU where no wild collecting for export 
is allowed. All plants must now be produced at 
the approved nurseries from seed or division of 
established stock. Phragmipedium kovachii would 
never have been allowed for export legally except 
for the work of serious nursery owners and the 
Peruvian government. By allowing a few plants to 
be collected and used for seed propagation via 
tissue culture these plants are now all over the 
world and the demand for wild plants no longer 
exists. Other countries like Ecuador and Brazil are following suit.



If continued restriction and over-regulation 
continues in its present state there will be less 
and less plants available and eventually the 
hobby itself will be threatened. Orchid Societies 
memberships would begin to decline, as there 
would be no new plant material for hobbyists to 
be interested in. Nurseries interested in growing 
and exporting species or hybrids have already 
declined in The US and other parts of the globe. 
The process or acquiring export permits has 
become so onerous that some nurseries have chosen 
to give up their export business. Many without 
the ability to export will not survive.

There is an important synergy between Orchid 
Societies, hobbyists and commercial growers. 
Without commercial growers there would be few 
hobbyists. Without hobbyists there would be no 
orchid societies. The articles written about new 
orchid species or hybrids would fall on deaf ears 
if the plants being written about were not 
available to hobbyists in a legal, artificially 
propagated manner. We are all interdependent on 
one another and it would be good if we spoke with one harmonized voice.

Nurseries (world-wide) are experiencing 
tightening restrictions and it would seem that 
CITES officials want a reduction in trade of any kind.

No one can argue with the good intentions of 
CITES namely the protection of species in the 
wild. No one can argue that each country’s 
department of agriculture has the important job 
of controlling the introduction of new pests and 
diseases through the importation of plants. These 
are not issues that nursery owners have 
contentions with. What we are concerned about and 
what we hope Orchid Societies and hobbyists would 
show their concern with is a movement within 
CITES in what many growers feel is the wrong 
direction and that is the increasing regulation 
and control in the trade of truly artificially propagated plants.
It is time for change regarding trade of Orchids 
and other plants that are truly artificially 
propagated. The direction of this reform would 
include a radical change in the way that Orchids are regulated in trade.

My proposal is simple in concept:

1.Protect all wild orchids by elevating the whole 
group to appendix 1 status. 100 years ago there 
were 1.5 billion people on the planet. Today 
there are some 6.5 billion and in a little more 
than 40 years that number will grow to over 9 
billion people demanding land and timber. 
Tropical rainforests are now estimated to be 
falling at the rate of 5 acres per 2.4 seconds. 
Protecting all orchids to the highest level will 
be required sooner or later. Why not make the change now?

2.Certify nurseries that are truly growing, or 
buying for resale orchids that are artificially 
propagated. Let those certified nurseries trade 
freely with a certification number or stamp which 
would be recognized and accepted by all signatory 
members of the CITES treaty. Nurseries that are 
already certified for export would automatically 
be given the Certification stamp or number to 
allow free trade of the plants they produce or trade in.


These changes include not allowing any wild 
collection for export of any Orchid plants unless for the following reasons:

1.      A nursery in the country of origin would 
want to add a small number of wild plants to 
their breeding stock say 5 –12 plants of any 
given species. These wild collected plants would 
have to have approval and supervision from the 
country of origin management authorities and that 
the collection of said plants would not prove 
detrimental to the wild population. These plants 
could not be exported but used only for breeding 
stock. Only seedlings or mature plants derived from seed could be exported.

2.      In the case of a rescue operation where 
orchid plants are going to be destroyed due to 
development the plants could be collected with 
government permission given to approved nurseries 
in the country of origin. Once the plants are 
collected they could not be sold for a period of 
2-3 years when the plant would then become 
established and would have grown out of the 
jungle growth. These plants would then trade on a 
CITES permit as rescued and would require that 
distinction on the plant labels and any CITES or 
PHYTO paperwork with actual import permit numbers 
and dates along with the “rescued” designation. 
These requirements would only apply to the 
original export from the country of origin, after 
that the plants could be traded without permits 
but would require that only CITES certified 
nurseries could trade or re-export them.

3.      Appendix I, or Appendix II? Why have 2 permits? Giving all wild
orchid plants (only) Appendix 1 status  would 
eliminate the need for export permits for art 
prop plants at all as wild plants would be 
completely protected from collecting and 
reselling except by the processes outlined above. 
This would in effect remove truly art prop plants 
from the treaty except for the certification of 
the nursery in question and the plants it 
produces or trades in from other certified nurseries.


Flasked seedlings:

There is a lot of confusion about flasked Orchid 
seedlings and what is legal and what is not. The 
CITES treaty clearly states that any and all 
orchid seedlings traded in vitro are exempt from 
CITES regulations as long as a phyto accompanies 
them. Different countries have different 
interpretations as to what this means. The US for 
instance will allow flasked seedlings of any 
orchids into the country but once they come out 
of flasks one must be able to prove that the 
parents were legal. This is an impossible task 
and flawed in terms of legality. If illegal 
aliens come into the US and have a child that 
child is an automatic US citizen. Plants IN VITRO 
should be considered in the same light. They are 
in the final definition of the treaty 
Artificially propagated plants. I am not 
condoning the illegal collecting of wild orchid 
plants for the purpose of exporting seedlings in 
flask, I am just saying that it is impossible to 
control or regulate the movement of seedlings in 
flask under the present definitions of the treaty.



Certified nursery proposal in need of your help.

The biggest change I would like to propose is 
that nurseries be certified for export of 
Artificially propagated plants and that this 
Certification would allow Orchid plants so 
produced to be traded without a formal 
complicated, highly detailed permit but just 
require a CITES nursery certificate number or 
stamp in a CITES permits place. The program would 
still be under CITES control but the need for 
lengthy accounting for any of the plants produced 
should be greatly reduced or better yet 
eliminated. Nurseries that have been dealing with 
management authorities for many years should have 
an easy transition into the new process. 
Nurseries that are applying for a new 
certification would have to go through a 
certification process in the beginning but as a 
nursery’s inventory grows by propagation or 
acquisition (this would be for art prop material 
only as wild collecting would no longer be 
allowed) there would be no need to keep reporting 
all of the art prop stock acquired, bred or 
divided to the management authorities.

My worldwide goal is for interested orchid 
growers whether hobbyist or commercial and Orchid 
societies to consider these proposed changes in 
the treaty, make adjustments if necessary, gain a 
consensus, sign documents of support for the 
changes and petition the CITES management 
authorities within each regulated country as well 
as the responsible CITES officials in 
Switzerland. If we can do this in significant 
numbers than the CITES officials should respond 
and help create positive change.

I would appreciate it very much if interested 
parties would comment on my ideas and at some 
point I would like to present the proposal to the 
proper officials here in the US and Switzerland.

If you agree with the above plan I need a letter 
of support by e-mail. If you would like to debate 
these ideas it is best done on the forums where I have posted this proposal.

Jerry Lee Fischer
Orchids Limited
4630 Fernbrook Lane
Plymouth
Minnesota
55446 USA
Fax: 763-557-6956
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