Peter,

You keep bringing up kovachii again and again. You might as well 
bring up all of the other orchid species too that have been 
over-exploited through illegal trade.This will and has become an 
issue that has moved on as many art prop seedlings of  species and 
hybrids from these species are now available.

As in all elements of society there is always the case where some may 
do things in an improper way. It is in fact a matter of trust and 
coming up with a system that says no to any wild plants for export 
and yes to all seed grown art prop varieties.

The American Orchid Society and other organizations can have direct 
input or influence to the convention as we are Non Government 
Organizations. I have done this before as president of the Commercial 
Orchid Growers Guild in the mid 1990's. It is true that we have no 
voting rights but CITES officials can and do consider the concerns of 
the people that are being regulated.

Being that CITES was conceived as an institution under the UN ( a 
democratic organization)  it is incumbent upon CITES officials to 
consider the effect their regulations have on the people who are 
being regulated. I believe that CITES officials have done this and 
try to evaluate and understand what is happening in the commercial 
orchid growing world. My proposal is just trying to say that those 
nurseries that are doing the right thing in the Artificial 
propagation of orchids should simply be certified and allowed to 
trade without an onerous process. Safeguards can be put in place that 
will help catch those that deal in illegal, wild specimens.

I am sure Peter O'Byrne has more knowledge about the CITES treaty 
than most but quite honestly I think he often makes sweeping 
statements about the treaty that are not entirely based on what the 
treaty or its documents really says or what the spirit of the treaty 
really is. Is the treaty entirely right or perfect? Of  course not. 
It is and always will be something which evolves over time. There are 
many things that I and others disagree with in regards to the treaty. 
One thing I think most agree with is protecting wild plants and 
animals form over-exploitation.

I point again to the document CoP 14 Doc. 30 
http://www.cites.org/eng/cop/14/doc/E14-30.pdf Which brings into 
question the effectiveness of reporting on trade in artificially 
propagated specimens. Read it carefully for there you can begin to 
see that there is some question about whether art prop specimen trade 
reporting is really a valid use of resources and brings in to 
question what benefit there might be for wild flora from this 
reporting. Although the CITES secretariat has a responsibility to 
uphold, I do believe that if enough member nations would ask that 
truly art prop plants be exempted from CITES then it could happen 
under the same or modified proposal which I have suggested.

I also encourage people to read the CITES strategic plan for 
2008-2013 http://www.cites.org/eng/com/SC/54/E54-06-1.pdf  which not 
only discusses trade in WILD plants and animals but also discusses 
understanding cultures, promoting conservation, benefiting indigenous 
people, using money from regulatory fees to benefit local 
conservation etc. CITES role is beginning to take on new meaning and 
can and will effect habitat conservation and bio-diversity loss one 
way or another even if indirect.
This strategic plan seems to say that trade in wild specimens to some 
degree can be allowed as it is now. It also says that it can bring 
benefit to local people. That is fine and then I would agree that 
regulation of trade in Wild specimens with proper permits and 
government over-sight is required. What I disagree with is requiring 
permits for plants that are artificially propagated. My proposal is 
an attempt to simplify the system by not allowing trade in any wild 
specimens. Once they are art prop let them go. I do believe it would 
be better for countries to encourage the development of art prop 
nurseries for the production of orchid species rather than to allow 
wild collection and export.

Finally I would like to say that my goal is to change the way CITES 
works in regards to art prop plants and that is all. If you, Peter 
O'Byrne or others can't see beyond the treaty as it exists or see the 
implications for the future then I think growers will always be 
trapped in distrust and will (as they are now) be limited in the 
ability to grow and survive. Working together for a positive solution 
is what is really required.

Sincerely, Jerry Lee Fischer



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