BIDA had seven reports of people testing positive after the 2022-05-01
dance, which was the last one before which we switched to requiring
N95/KN95/KF94/etc
<https://blog.bidadance.org/2022/05/requiring-high-filtration-masks.html>.

(Though a bunch of the ones testing positive carpooled together from ~2hr
away)

Jeff

On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:48 PM Julian Blechner via Organizers <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Dances with vax+mask policy I know offhand with no reported spreads,
> despite a culture of "please test if you feel ill, please tell us, and we
> will tell dancers":
>
> Greenfield, MA
> BIDA, MA
> Concord, MA
> Downtown Amherst Contra, MA
> Rainbow Contra in Western Mass
> Pioneer Valley's ECD
> Montpelier, VT (I believe?)
> Glen Echo, MD
> Pinewoods camp weeks that had this policy, at least masking and testing
> for 3 days
> Albany Contra, NY (I am pretty sure)
> Portland, ME's new series
>
> Unsure about CDNY, but I am pretty sure too.
>
> -Julian
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 10:17 PM Joe Harrington via Organizers <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I know we all hate them, but some dances are still requiring masks.  Has
>> there been documented spread at a dance where everyone is in a (K)N95 or
>> better, like a Breeze 99?  How about vax+mask or vax+test+mask?  I think we
>> all know that vax+test-mask=spread, from numerous events this past summer
>> and since.
>>
>> I'd also be interested in a professional opinion on whether our gyrations
>> mean anything if we're not also masking full time when we're out and
>> about.  I know the theory, dance is more breathing and close up for a long
>> time, but the new variants are so infectious that I wonder if that
>> matters.  If you're getting 10x the infectious dose in the grocery store,
>> protection during a dance wouldn't matter much.  It's like locking the
>> doors and leaving all the windows open.  But, maybe it's 0.1x the
>> infectious dose at the grocery, and our measures do matter.  I'm only
>> interested in data, not speculation.  Does anyone have any?
>>
>> --jh--
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 4:37 PM Heitzso via Organizers <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> My wife got covid at Roanoke Railroader last summer and I got it from
>>> her.
>>> I researched then (so relevant to variants then, not necessarily current
>>> variants)
>>> and most transmission occurs 1 to 2 days before testing to 2 to 3 days
>>> after testing.
>>> I don't know if that is relevant to this discussion because ...
>>> I assume most people test when they start to feel different from normal
>>> health ...
>>> which might explain the "1 to 2 days before testing" transmission
>>> and that's different from a "test regardless of how you feel to dance"
>>> testing policy.
>>> But, I do not know that. That just happens to be the data.
>>>
>>> Turkey Quicky, a mini-weekend, fortunately escaped covid spread though
>>> someone tested positive Saturday morning after dancing Friday night.
>>> (most dancers were unmasked)
>>> A KY weekend dance before TQ had a roughly 20% covid
>>> spread with a recent negative test and a negative test on entry policy.
>>>
>>> I'm not saying what policy should or should not be enacted to
>>> prevent the spread of covid. I'm just noting one official statistic
>>> and two recent weekend dances data points.
>>>
>>> -Heitzso
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