Could you specifically address my question of how to get new dancers to
show up on time for the lesson?  I think it would be ok to advertise the
event as starting at 7:00 with lesson (or basic moves instruction) in the
first half hour.  I feel like when new people come at 7:00 and experienced
arrive at 7:30 that already sets the newbies up as "a tribe apart".  We
need to get as many as possible there at 7:00 to integrate and socialize.
Thoughts?

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 6:50 AM Mary Collins <[email protected]> wrote:

> Alexander- oops...while we are not specifically gender free, we strive for
> it in a very very conservative group of older dancers.  I am scheduled to
> meet with our web person soon and will adress verbage. Thanks for this info.
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 4:34 PM Alexandra Deis-Lauby <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Mary,
>>
>> Is the Buffalo dance gender free?  The website tells callers to use gents
>> and ladies. If the dance is in fact gender free, then the website needs
>> updating.  If you are advertising the dance as gender free but use gents
>> and ladies, that would certainly not encourage me to return if I were a new
>> dancer.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2023, at 3:54 PM, Mary Collins via Organizers <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Watching this as we have the same issue. We are (I believe) the 2nd
>> largest city in NYS and have the most pitiful turnout.
>>
>> I think you have some good ideas here.
>>
>> One comment: we often or even always speak about our dance not only
>> gender free, no partner necessary to bring, but also as no lessons needed,
>> each dance being taught and "walked through".  Then we advertise "the
>> lesson" b4 the dance. If words matter (and I think we agree they do) the
>> this is a huge contradiction.
>>
>> I say to people these sets of words & phrasing: easy, walking to music,
>> Only 8 steps, no need to bring partner but a friend is fun, dances are
>> taught, practiced (stole from country line dance & swing) and then they are
>> prompted once the music starts. We offer basic move instruction rather than
>> lesson.
>>
>> I don't really know if these changes help, hinder or have no effect. I
>> only know that not having a friend anchor for the first few dances would
>> have resulted in my not coming back. The lesson too. But that's just my
>> perception.
>>
>> We give out "get in free" cards and encourage ppl to share theirs with a
>> friend. I also encourage people who say "I told my friends...", to next
>> dance offer to pick them up or meet b4 and come together.
>>
>> We also encourage experienced dancers to partner with new dancers.
>>
>> I am anxious to hear other's ideas.
>>
>> Mary "from Buffalo", not.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 12:49 PM Sandy Seiler via Organizers <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Newbies are not returning my thoughts...
>>> Why? not feeling welcome?, feeling intimidated/too hard?  Coming late to
>>> lesson and being lost/confused during dance?  Lack of feeling of
>>> mastery/learning?  Need follow up lesson since we only dance 1x/month?  One
>>> month is a long time to wait for another lesson.  Not enough younger
>>> dancers like themselves?
>>> Ideas:
>>> 1. Use beginner friendly buttons
>>> 2. Ask experienced dancers to dance with beginners for first 2 dances at
>>> least.  Board members lead by example.
>>> 3. Encourage experienced dancers to come for the beginner lesson to
>>> welcome/socialize with new dancers.
>>> 4. Have caller or one of us give out free passes (pass for next dance)
>>> at the lesson so we don't have to remember to do it at the table.  We gave
>>> out 15 free passes to new dancers in Feb and did not get any to return in
>>> March. (March dance was on 2nd sat instead of our normal 3rd sat and it's
>>> spring break.  Feb attendance 61, March 38 (paid dancers, not including 3
>>> listeners).  Also there was a local magazine article about LBDA in February
>>> and we had our most experienced and popular contra dance band (Kaw Creek)
>>> playing.
>>> 5. Our Lesson is at 7:00, Dance 7:30.  Should we use start time 7:00 in
>>> advertising bc experienced dancers will figure it out and adjust to coming
>>> at 7:30 more easily than new people knowing they need to come at 7:00 for
>>> the lesson.  New people attending and being on time for 7:00 lesson is
>>> important for a smooth dance so do we need to advertise that way?  Want
>>> experienced dancers to be there to meet and socialize with them so they can
>>> be better integrated into the community and not feel so awkward.  I have
>>> suggested this to our board before, but was told that would be manipulative
>>> toward experienced dancers who would be upset that they came too early and
>>> wasted their time.  That feels like a very unwelcoming attitude, and I
>>> would like to encourage all our dancers to consider that 7:00 is our start
>>> time because beginners are important and we need to be there to greet them
>>> and socialize.
>>> 6. Schedule a 1 hour lesson or series of lessons led by experienced
>>> callers Lisa and or Jill and a couple new callers... before the dance?  On
>>> a different day?  Through Parks and Rec this summer?
>>> 7. New dancers are far outnumbering experienced dancers.  Need to do
>>> advanced dance to pull back in some dancers who drifted away after the
>>> pandemic.  Contact individually by phone/email?
>>>
>>> And then getting younger people to attend is a whole other but strongly
>>> related topic we need to address more effectively.  We are not getting
>>> enough young people at dances.  It appears to me that when a young person
>>> comes they often decide to not return because there aren't enough people in
>>> their age group.
>>>
>>> Please tell me if you like/encourage these ideas I have come up with so
>>> far and add others.
>>> Especially I want to know how to get new people to come on time for the
>>> lesson.
>>> Is it ok to advertise dance for 7:00 even though first 30 minutes is
>>> lesson?  It's frustrating for our callers and then they don't get a full
>>> lesson which is not good for anyone.
>>>
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