Hi Stefan,
The reason why I don't want to feed this topic are pretty much the same as
I wrote months ago. In few words:

   - The benchmark has been created by a vendor to exalt its specific
   features.
   - Who wrote the benchmark start publishing results before asking to
   vendors to tune each products. This was obviously a great marketing
   operation and seems it worked quite good for a small vendor with poor
   attention from media before that benchmark.
   - Most of the tests stress more the Node.js driver than the server. When
   I run them the CPU taken by OrientDB server was 0,1% and 99,9% was the node
   process! Unfortunately we don't have a super fast Node.js driver, even if
   Emanuele yesterday pushed the first version of the hybrid Node.js/C++ and
   results are already very positive. Soon he will release some update on it.
   - I'm not 100% sure, but I remember to read that they published the
   average of 5 runs. The bad is that the server was restarted every time.
   This is against any real life usage, where the server stays up & running
   and starts to optimize things as soon as you use it. This means also that
   all the optimizations that Java HotSpot does by compiling under the hood
   the most used part, it's completely unused.
   - For the reason above, you should write a warmup phase at the beginning
   that merely loads the entire database in RAM, and nobody spent too much
   time to write a proper warmup for that benchmark.
   - With a small dataset that fits in memory, the advantage of the
   index-free adjacency are zero. This dramatically changes when you have huge
   datasets that don't fit in RAM. Then you appreciate the O(1) speed of
   loading edges against O(logN) of using an index.

That said, I'm not saying OrientDB is the fastest DBMS in any single use
cases. We already know the bottleneck of our architecture and we have a
clear vision and a roadmap about how to address each one.

Best Regards,

Luca Garulli
Founder & CEO
OrientDB <http://orientdb.com/>


On 22 October 2015 at 10:15, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This is now the fourth day that this goes undisputed and I find that odd.
>
> On behalf of happy OrientDB users I want to request some information here
> regarding this.
>
>
>    1. Is this test conducted fairly?
>    - To my surprise I see the js driver is being used (for one)
>
>    2. Does it accurately portray any speed difference
>    - Compared to the first test that can hardly be
>
>    3. Why is this not addressed at all here?
>
> In some cases things are best left ignored. I don't believe this to be one
> of those cases.
>
> Regards,
>  -Stefan
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:21:44 UTC, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>> ok, this ArangoDB test frustrates the hell out of me.
>>
>> I know that their previous tests have been disputed but I hope this will
>> be addressed as well.
>>
>> best regards,
>>  -Stefan
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 18 October 2015 21:38:43 UTC, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Has this been addressed at all?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.arangodb.com/2015/10/benchmark-postgresql-mongodb-arangodb/#more-8721
>>>
>>> Regardsm
>>>  -Stefan
>>>
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