@normanLinux +1

On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 3:28:07 PM UTC+5, normanLinux wrote:
>
> It can be quite an advantage for relatively trivial projects.  Imagine, 
> however, that you have a project with several programmers working on 
> disparate aspects of your application.  team A decides to add new fields 
> for their requirements, Team B adds different fields.  Neither is aware of 
> the changes made by the other and each could miss out on potentially useful 
> data as they don't have the full picture - to say nothing of records with 
> one set of extra fields, others with both sets and yet others with neither.
>
> But the biggest counter argument to most NoSQL databases is still the lack 
> of normalisation, which means data getting out of sync. 
>
> I started my computing career in 1968 and have always heard - and often 
> seen in practice - the two statements:
>
> Whenever data is duplicated it can get out of sync.
> If data *can* get out of sync it *will* get out of sync.
>
> Normalisation is not, as some seem to think, about saving disk space.  It 
> is about data integrity.  Without normalisation you cannot ensure data 
> integrity. 
>
> How do you ensure, for example, that you have retrieved all of the sales 
> records for a particular product if people have entered the product name 
> differently at different times?  Often in more than one incompatible way? 
> Or, for example, have entered the country name in many ways? E.g. the 
> country Ireland can legitimately be called Ireland, Republic of Ireland, 
> Eire and even (for some rather older people) Southern Ireland
>
> This is not, of course, a problem with a database such as Orient where you 
> would have a vertex per product (or country) with edges linking to them - 
> perfect normalisation and *much* faster than foreign key links in the 
> collection of indexed files that are laughingly referred to as a 
> 'relational database'.
>
> (In an earlier incarnation I worked with the GE/Honeywell IDS database - 
> which bore strong similarities to the new generation of graph databases. 
>  This was referred to at the time as a relational database.  When I then 
> encountered the more common database types my first reaction was "that's 
> not a database! It's a collection of indexed files!". )
>
> On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 07:00:22 UTC, scott molinari wrote:
>>
>> Like I said, schema always has to be controlled in some way. Mongo forces 
>> schema to be in the code, which I think is an advantage, because it puts 
>> the storage of state and all its complexities in the background.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>

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