On 16/01/13 16.50, Gerardo @neorigami.com wrote:
The confusion is because I'm taking the symbols (arrows and lines) as the
step, in that sense it would be 2 and 7, but he understands the step as how
the paper is shown, in that case indeed the steps would be 3 and 8.

What do you think? Which of the two options should we leave in the diagrams?

I do understand this confusion. In a sense, the step is the transition between the two images rather than any single of them. When drawing diagrams where each drawing includes folding symbols for the next step, my understanding is that the step belongs to the drawing that has the symbols and (most) of the explanatory text. That would be your "2 and 7" above. This even if the next drawing may have a text that refers to the finishing of the step such as "Like this; note how flap A now aligns with point B". I strongly believe that this is conventionally so in almost all diagrams I've seen: "Please repeat step 2" would refer to repeating the actions described by the symbols and text included with the drawing with the number 2, which depicts the model before doing step 2.

However, I have often made photograms, i.e. simple sequences of photos. These do not (in my version) include symbols. In this case, the explanation of the step is placed with the result image. For an example in English, please view http://papirfoldning.dk/en/diagrammer/Lilje02.html. And then I would refer to the result image and its text as the step. So in this case the "Please repeat step 2" would refer to the text accompanying the image that shows the model after doing step 2. Of course that image (and the accompanying text) is numbered 2.

You can imagine the confusion I ran into at the time where I added symbols to an existing photogram. I had to shift all texts one picture "to the left", as it was clear to me that the text would have to be with the symbols, and that this would define the step.

This possible confusion of what the step refers somehow blending into both the before and after drawings is also reflected in the list of advices we all give to beginners: "When you do a step, remember to look ahead to the next image".

Hope this sheds some additional light to you question,
    Hans

Hans Dybkjær
papirfoldning.dk
society: foldning.dk

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