Hi,
>This is true - but this is why one would choose JAVA, not strictly why one
>would choose Orion IMHO. Most servlet engines, EJB containers and the like
>will work with standard code, whether they have proprietary extensions or
>not. Thus if you write portable code, you can shift server.
>The problem comes with support, maintenance and problem solving time? I'm
>sure it's very good with Orion, but it has to 'appear' to be good as well -
>big companies (eg IBM, BEA) have that safety parachute that's worth a
>corporation paying extra for.
Yep..this is what we are considering.
>Hypothetical: What if both Magnus and Karl got sick for a week and I found a
>bug in the server that takes down a site? It could be offline for a week!
Well, in all honesty, this isnt such a fair example. Maybe saying if they
got killed or something, or gave up on it. But a week or two..I doubt
you'll find too many companies, if any, that will fix a bug and release an
update that quickly. That just doesnt happen. I can tell you from working
at a large company, even if we fixed the bug right away, its doubtful we
would post a small update the same day unless it was a MAJOR problem many
were calling in on. In general, service packs come out so often that fix a
lot of bugs at one time (as well as usually introduce new ones ;).
>As for lobbying for Open Source, I'd like to make sure they've considered
>all the options. With JServ / EJBoss / Jakarta open source, Orion may have a
>speed advantage at the moment but I doubt they'll keep it long against the
>'hordes' of tweakers working to better those Open Source projects?
Jakarta looks like the winner of the bunch to me, next to Orion at this
time. Jakarta is based on the full J2EE ( I believe that is what I read )
and if its performance is close to Orion, could be a good choice over
Orion. However, I would think that if Orion doesnt go open source soon,
they might be better off getting VC firms to back them, hire some more
developers and start getting more work done. To my surprise, these two guys
have done some incredible amounts of work for only two programmers! To have
the fastest (so the benchmarks say thus far) and most up to date App Server
in a PRE 1.0 state blows my mind. Unless..maybe this stuff is really easy? ;)
Kevin Duffey
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