I'm seriously considering putting a hosting service for Orion online, but I have some 
concerns that I'll have to address before I
can do it. One is particular is integrating UID/GID support into the web server (i.e. 
Orion runs as root, but as each request comes
in, it "backs down" to a specific User/Group defined in the app config, and then kicks 
back to root when the request is done). I can
guaruntee this idea wont work on a system running Green Treads, but it might work ok 
with Native Threads. Without a feature like
this, I dont have much choice except to run an orion server for each customer, which 
is clearly unacceptable.

I had to make similar modifications for my apache server after being snubbed by the 
apache server folks. They seem to think that
forcing ISPs to run all customer apps as external CGI is a good thing (I use PHP and 
mod_perl extensivly, and the patches I made
allow my customers to SECURELY take advantage of the in-server modules). (Yes, I know 
orion runs php/perl as external CGI, but I
dont expect many customers to want both jsp/servlet/ejb support and script language 
support)

[just wait until I start talking about a JNI standard module interface for linking in 
embedded script interpretters :))]

Next thing I would need would be something like the Enhydra web-console, but secure 
for customers to access only their own
applications. Given then user/group fix, I could probably handle this issue :))

The only other choice I see for folks wanting to get an orion service is to co-locate 
or lease a server from an ISP (we do both
[http://www.isitetech.com], but despite our good prices, most folks arent all that 
interested in a hosting service that only has 6
megs of bandwidth at the moment -- but we are growing :)), then you have the whole 
server to yourself and can do whatever you need
:))




----- Original Message -----
From: Guilherme Ceschiatti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 4:50 PM
Subject: Orion Hosting Service


> Hi!
>
> Anybody knows an hosting service with Orion Server support?
>
> []s
> Guilherme Ceschiatti
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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