Could not agree more. don't any of you subscribe to other tech lists? I'm 
surprised that there are people using orion that are not subscribed to 
ejb-interest (excellent list and a must for people working with ejb 
professionally IMHO) which has at least as much traffic as this one here. 
Please learn how to use a mail client with filters and let's deal with a 
high volume as soon as there is something to deal with and let's not start 
a religious war on newgroup vs. mailingl ist (I'm pro mailing list btw 
;-)). the negative side effects (people not knowing where to look, 
crossposting etc.) would clearly outweight the benefits of splitting up the 
list IMHO.

robert

At 19:21 18.10.00 , you wrote:
>IMO, the mailing list is just fine. If there are too many messages for your
>inbox, then you should filter it away. All the popular mail clients will
>handle this.
>
>I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way, nor am the only one who
>belongs to many other special-interest lists, all delivered via email and
>filtered.
>
>I belong to roughly 40 or so development lists, some of which average 40-50
>messages a day. They happily get filtered away into their own folders. (In
>fact, I just archived my Postfix users list from the past year-- 14,000+
>messages.)
>
>If the list does need to be split, it should be split by the Orion folks as
>they deem necessary.
>
>Please realize however, when talking about splitting the list into different
>development disciplines, that is no longer Orion specific, it now becomes a
>Java app development list-- which there are already many.
>
>If someone volunteers to setup a web-based "message board" or a separate
>NNTP server, then that is their perogative. But I do believe that not
>keeping the product support channels centralized will not only confuse the
>new users of Orion, but also be the cause of frustration trying to find out
>which method of support is actually productive.
>
>Thanks for listening.
>
>--
>David S. Kenzik
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>Original Music - http://mp3.com/text
>
>
>   Joseph B. Ottinger said...
>
>  > It's quite feasible for me to set up a news server (nntp, usenet style) on
>  > my server if that's a viable solution. It'll take me a little bit of time,
>  > as I'm not exactly familiar with running INN, but I can figure it out.
>  >
>  > On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Duffey, Kevin wrote:
>  >
>  > > I would agree too. I think if you split the list into ejb and web, 
> it might
>  > > limit the traffic a bit. Also, maybe a newbie list, or possibly a 
> mailing
>  > > list about how to configure Orion, set it up, install ejbs, servlets,
>  > > applications, etc..there are a lot of questions on that front. A 
> fourth (the
>  > > first three being web, ejb, and configuration/setup) would be database
>  > > related, if possible.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > > -----Original Message-----
>  > > > From: Miles Daffin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 9:51 AM
>  > > > To: Orion-Interest
>  > > > Subject: Re: 2 many messages - News Server needed. - Or we could split
>  > > > the list
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > > Actually, I think the mail list is fine. I use a filter to
>  > > > move these
>  > > > > messages into their own folder.
>  > > >
>  > > > Good idea.
>  > > >
>  > > > > However, I do feel that some improvement is possible. I
>  > > > recomend splitting
>  > > > > the list into a few other lists.
>  > > >
>  > > > Yes - create 2 news groups. The main point of this is the
>  > > > automatic ordering
>  > > > of threads that this allows, in my email client at least. I
>  > > > can see a root
>  > > > message and the whole, dialogic line of consequent messages.
>  > > > What's so wrong
>  > > > with that?
>  > > >
>  > > > > Probably the most obvious split is between
>  > > > > developers using Orion and administers trying to maintain,
>  > > > configure and
>  > > > > install it.
>  > > >
>  > > > Like I said - 2 news groups.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  > -----------------------------------------------------------
>  > Joseph B. Ottinger               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > http://cupid.suninternet.com/~joeo      HOMES.COM Developer
>  >
>

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