I don't think I could say it better myself. I totally agree with you. The
fact is, while a few people in the organization I work for believe a small
company has little or no support, Magnus, Karl and a number of competent
Orion users have given me far better support than I have got from Allaire or
BEA..at least 100x better. I mean this. I get answeres EVERY DAY about
things I have questions for. Not only was BEA slow in responding (over 1
week), but the people they have their answering questions, first of all are
not the developers, second of all don't know the product very well, and
third..those that know it can only explain the "basic" things. Technical
questions seem to elude all but the developers of BEA and you can't talk to
them directly.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sven van 't Veer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:29 PM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: Orion in production
>
>
>
>
> "Duffey, Kevin" wrote:
> >
> > easiest to set up. I played around with WebLogic for two
> weeks (on and off)
> > and still couldn't get my simple JSP page to show up.
> WebSphere was a
> > nightmare, and while Resin was easy to work with, its not a
> full J2EE app
> > server.
>
> > IBM WebSphere..about a year late for the full J2EE support.
> I can't even
> > believe IBM WebSphere still doesn't support Servlet 2.2 and
> JSP 1.1! I don't
> > care how many billions you put into your software..if it
> doesn't even meet
> > the standards that have been in place for almost a year
> now..it sure doesn't
> > say a lot to me that the money is being spent in the right places!
>
> > Meanwhile,
> > you have little itty bitty Orion (Ok..they are big to me!
> ;) over here
> > support EJB 2.0, Servlet 2.3, full J2EE support,
> clusterable, easy to set
> > up, fast, etc..
> >
> > I sound like I am a sales man for Orion, but you know..I
> tend to read up and
> > test alot of the latest stuff and Orion kicks the
> competitions ass hands
> > down.
>
> AFIK Orion is a very small company, only a hand full of
> people which is
> great. IMHO lagre companies waste a lof of time and money on meetings
> and stuff like that which is really bad for productions.
> Before starting
> for myself I worked in a couple of those and, eventhough the salary is
> generally very good the working climate sucks. I hate
> meetings, 90 % of
> the time is wasted discussing off-topic issues. The company I
> worked for
> had about 50 developers working which isn't even that big (considering
> Weblogic witb it's 1500). Every day started with a staff
> meeting of one
> hour with the section heads and one hour of the section heads
> with all
> the section members, resulting in about man hours lost per section per
> day.
>
> If there is anything that makes small companies great, it's their
> agility. Orion has already implemented mos t of the EJB 2.0
> specs while
> weblogin has just launched it's fully 1.1 compliant server.
>
> I'd take Orion over any othjer server, and not only because of it's
> price, but because it seems there are some really competent people
> working on this server.
>
> sven
>
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> Sven E. van 't Veer
> http://www.cachoeiro.net
> Java Developer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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