xemacs+jde (compile, edit)
ant (build)
bugseeker2 (debug)

Works great with Orion, Weblogic, Dynamo, and I'm sure anything
else. Cross platform too is a big added bonus.

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thanks for the explanation.
> 
> How do the two (netbeans, Forte) compare.
> 
> I have done 90% of my career development in VAJ.  Know that IDE.  I am finding
> that for web application development, especially EJB, unless one is working
> with the Web Sphere / EJB additions, that VAJ is quite limiting.  I'll qualify
> by saying that those extensions make developing in Web Sphere/VAJ a super joy
> if one is thinking of Web Sphere deployment.  (The IBM/VAJ concept of a EJB
> Access Bean takes care of the huge gap in the CMP model between EJB's and the
> DB concept of association, but that is another thread.)  However, outside of Web
> Sphere and maybe the older versions of Web Logic, using VAJ with other EJB
> containers, Orion, Jboss, Dynamo, is either very limited or impossible.  At
> this point I have dropped back to the old editor/makefile/external debugger
> method of development using emacs/ant/and one of a number of external
> debuggers, none of which are that much better then System.out.println().
> 
> I would love to see others comment.
> 
> Peace
> john
> 
> On 16-Nov-00 Christian Sell wrote:
> > netbeans WAS netbeans, BECAME forte, and was named back to netbeans before
> > being made open source. www.netbeans.org
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:44 PM
> > Subject: RE: ORION and VAJ?
> > 
> > 
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> Is not netbeans now Forte (Sun bought netbeans and the old Forte
> > development
> >> environment and combined them in its Forte Community Edition, I think)?
> >>
> >> If not send me the netbeans URL please.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> john
> >>
> >> On 16-Nov-00 Rob Lapensee wrote:
> >> > John,
> >> >
> >> > I have successfully got netbeans to set a break point and stop a running
> > ejb
> >> > in progress under orion, and then go on to single step and show variable
> >> > contents.
> >> >
> >> > It working by using something called JPDA (download from somewhere in
> >> > www.javasoft.com)
> >> > You will need JPDA installed and netbeans will need to be started with
> >> > access to the JPDA .dll's (or shared libraries if you are not on NT).
> >> > Netbeans will also require access to the JPDA jar (or jars?).
> >> >
> >> >> Stuff Deleted <<
> >>
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> >> Date: 16-Nov-00
> >> Time: 14:41:15
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> ----------------------------------
> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 17-Nov-00
> Time: 10:41:01
> 
> John N. Alegre
> Andante Systems
> St. Paul, MN
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