uh... search the archives... I think there's mostly one reference to www.netcraft.com for you to find out. Also, there's a list hosted by Jason Rimmer at: http://orion.irth.net/OOPS/oopslist.jsp and if everyone would sign in there, it would increase considerably, allowing many other potential orion users to sell the idea to management more easily. In that page you can enter your site's details HTH JP -----Original Message----- From: Burr Sutter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Martes, 30 de Enero de 2001 13:57 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Developers Just downloaded the Orion Server and was wondering what the current userbase thought about the product. Is it stable and scalable enough to deploy a major website using Servlets, JSP and EJB? Better than Resin? JRun? I've used WebSphere, WebLogic and SilverStream. Thanks, Burr [EMAIL PROTECTED]