Cliff:
  Sometimes, when things get heated up, you need to just step back before emotion 
overrules you.  The fact that you are using the Resin/ Jboss combination says a lot 
about your good taste and wise judgment.  But once something emotional is put into 
print, people get offended, and start firing back.  It's normal -- it's human nature.  
It happened with the book The Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie, which got him a death 
sentence from Iran.  Yet I don't condemn the Muslim faith because of it, since I have 
met some wonderful Muslims, who  helped me to understand more of their faith, and the 
common elements with Jewish and Christian traditions. 
Randy

-----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:18 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Security between applications?


 
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Weblogic is next on the list, the only problem being that I am
funding this entirely myself until we have a solid enough
presentation to try for investment (and one of my own machines is
looking more like a colo every day :\).  We're not giving up hope
yet!

Currently I'm looking at a JBoss/Resin combination, as they both
offer certain features I'm keen to employ.  I run Resin on my
development BSD box, and I am impressed with its simple yet powerful
configuration, which enables me to easily auto-generate it, and JBoss
has some very nifty hot deployment features and I believe I can
secure it at EJB level as well as connection level using its JAAS
support
(http://www.jboss.org/newsite/documentation/HTML/ch08s32.html).

- ---
I'd like to apologise to anyone offended by my earlier postings, I
was out of line - and I perhaps deserved the reception I received.  I
dont think I deserved being called a fool, however, since I am not. 
I defy anyone to say they've never done anything irrational under
stress.

I'd also like to thank those who saw through it and answered in a
mature and professional manner, and I hope they forgive my outburst.
- ---

Cliff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Konstantin Polyzois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 15 February 2001 16:04
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Security between applications?
> 
> 
> Securing datasources is no match for Weblogic. I do not know how
> Orion handles this.
> /korre
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: den 13 februari 2001 20:09
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Security between applications?
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> We are currently evaluating the various J2EE solutions available
> for a venture that we hope to deliver to the world in a few months.
>  Whilst reading the documentation for each, I dont appear to be
> able to configure Orion to suit the way the project will work.
> 
> In order for our application to be of any use, we need to be able
> to implement a fair amount of security, since JSP pages may be at 
> the mercy of
> people who are not us.
> 
> Basically the application will provide a farm of hosts on which we
> will be offering certain services.  Each application needs to have
> a data source that it, and only it has access to.  The current
> problem as I see  it is that
> if I define a connection in data-sources.xml, then every web
> application deployed on the server or cluster of servers has access
> to it.  
> We need some
> way of securing that while still being able to use EJB in all its 
> glory.  We
> need to be able to offer the opportunity of creating and editing 
> content without compromising the security of other applications on
> the system.  
> 
> Could anyone give us some tips and pointers on this?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Cliff Rowley
> 
> 

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