Its an interesting debate -- should you make someone take the longer way to
get a better foundation, or get them moving to be productive more quickly.
I suppose it really depends on your goal.
Of course, personally I prefer using vi over any IDE and I think IDEs
annoying, limiting, and not worth the time it takes to load them. In
addition, I wouldn't hire someone who only knows an IDE in any kind of lead
role.
But I don't think the EJBMaker really falls into the definition of an IDE
(sure its got a GUI front end, but how is it an Integrated Development
Environment?). Its more or less a shortcut around some drudgery involved in
making CMP EJBs that any monkey could do - Putting together getter/setters,
building a rudimentary ejb-jar.xml, et al. It still requires understanding
EJBs and it still requires putting together code. What it does for you is
analogous to 'Find and Replace', anyone could do it by hand but the computer
could do it for you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Pridham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 6:19 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Is EJBMaker Worth it?
I agree.....When training new Java programmers, I start them out on Textpad.
IDE's provide great shortcuts, but do not help you understand the language.
Alot of programmers change jobs frequently, so locking yourself into an IDE
is not a very good idea.
Our solution = Textpad + Ant + Command Prompt + MS Visual SourceSafe
Regards,
Tom Pridham
http://www.oakscape.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Chad Stansbury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:08 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Is EJBMaker Worth it?
I think this is generally true for experienced developers. I tend to steer
clear of all the Java IDEs since I'm at the stage in my career where
debuggers aren't necessary... and I'd rather code than waste my time
learning an IDE that probably won't be around in 2 or 3 years (they tend to
become obsolete rather quickly nowadays).
For me, Ant + TextPad + DOS prompt + WinCVS is very potent combination.
Chad Stansbury
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh P. Motto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Is EJBMaker Worth it?
> I had the same experience as you - so I
> copy-and-paste everything right into the DD...
> it's a lot faster for me than trying to figure
> out what the GUI tool is doing to my files...
>
> --- Joe Fair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've been working with EJBMaker for several
> > hours now,
> > and I can't help but think that it would have
> > been
> > faster to do it by hand. Does anyone else have
> > an
> > encouraging experience?
> > Thanks,
> > Joe
> >
> >
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