Group, I just logged bug 518, a request for enhancement. One issue for usermanager's is many of the problems developers have is with deployment and not actually coding with a usermanager. There is currently no logging mechanism for a usermanager, so if we want to debug our deployment, we have to write our own debug code for either our own usermanager or XMLUserManager, DataSourceUserManager, or EJBUserManager. Usually this means writing our own debugger UserWrapper code, and then inheriting the debugged usermanager, and instancing the debugger UserWrapper (very ugly). I don't think we should write debug code for what are austensibly deployment issues. I suggested a tag in the application.xml (the orion-application.xml) <usermanager logging="true" /> If you think this would be useful enhancement, please vote for this bug. Regards, the elephantwalker
