Paolo,
true.
But you can use perl scripts in orion. Pl/sql, I mean, give me a break. That's just an
Oracle servlet that could just as well be some other sql servlet. Likewise, if you
have good cmp/ejbs, there is no need for pl/sql. Other developer tools are also
integrated with orion. I use Forte to create Orion ejb's all of the time.
Struts and other tools are just as good for form building and handling. Forte can also
be used to automate your form building process with orion.
If you use the opensympony cache, you can beat the Oracle web cache...I tried for a
year to get the $1 million from Oracle (Larry's famous $1 million challenge), but they
would not let us use orion and opensymphony cache!
Orion has one of the best user and role manager api's built into the server.
The price difference is 20:1. I mean, give me a break!
Regards,
the elephantwalker
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paolo Ramasso
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 12:45 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Cc: BUCCI,STEFANO
Subject: Re: Some questions on Orion
ciao
just to clarify yes it is true orion is cheaper than 9ias
but oc4j (orion) is a component of our application server, we have pl/sql, perl,
form (developer), tools for application integration (worlflow, trasformation and
messaging), business intelligence, intelligent web cache, all these pieces are
included in 9ias, so it depend on your needs to choose the right product.
ciao
Paolo
elephantwalker wrote:
> see below...
>
> regards,
>
> the elephantwalker
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Florian Werner
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:53 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Some questions on Orion
>
> Hi!
>
> I'm currently evaluating Orion for internal use and a customer.
> Does Orion support/include:
>
> RMI over JRMP ?
> any OODBMS ?
> any ORMapping Tools ?
> Realm-Integration like LDAP, RDBMS ?
>
> > j2ee support for rmi uses the over the wire protocol ormi.
> > AFAIK, If you can create a schema for the databank (should be easily done
> with OODBMS) this should work.
> > Like most j2ee vendors, Orion has its own OR mapping tool
> > EJBUserManager and DataSourceUserManager can be used directly with a
> database
> > and a new custom usermanager can easily use an LDAP server. There is also
> a rolemanager api.
>
> Are the any IDEs supporting Orion (beside Kawa from Macromedia) ?
>
> > We use Sun's Forte debugging with Orion all of the time.
>
> Is ORACLE going to by Orion ?
>
> > Oracle has already licensed Orion as oc4j. So you can pay Oracle $30 k for
> Orion, or pay Ironflare $1.5 k ;). oc4j is exactly the same as Orion.
>
> Regards
> Florian Werner
