Stephen, Agrippa II - too late? Not for Josephus, but for Pliny the Elder? Too late for your scenario, I believe, though by no means too late to fit into the historical scheme of busy interaction between court and officium. Ask yourself, then, why Pliny refers to the balsam anecdote at the dawn of the Jewish War, to post-war 'Nazerini' in the plains of Mesopotamia (whatever that means in Eisenman's terminological world), if he, acc. to your philosophy, should have stopped being actual (and if so, why?) when his own grandfather hasn't yet reached the prime of life, i.e., already after the age of Archelaus. Pls answer why his description of Iudaea (against all Roman practice) is following the course of the Jordan (what a religious allusion!) instead of the two military overland routes that were already in use during the Syrian Wars (but perhaps even earlier), for that would be good Roman geographers' style. You deny the (forced) relations between the clientele and his patron (here: position papers sent to the coordinating officium), esp. in times of trouble. But that is, then, operating against the basic principle of history: against all odds, the theoretical scenario (the work hypothesis) principally has to follow the general - already known - historical course of events, not vice versa! It is simply not enough to say 'no' (or 'yes') per se, I believe. The actuality of the outbreak of the Jewish War for the surround laying clientele kingdoms should be clear to us. So what's up with the assumed therapeutic silence of a selected contemporary author and his actual political sitz-im-leben? N.b. The known Agrippaean (Herodian) grain supply you've mentioned (and the bibliographic ref. would be important), here: Augustus - 70 CE for the garrison of Rhaphaneai, the Leg XII Fulmitata, is integral part of the clientele status. The total amount of grain, forage, vine, oil and salt etc., then, is easy to be calculated only for the winter period. It is, thus, a function of time depending on the calculated strength of the garrison (combatants as well as non-combatants) in its winter quarter and the relative portion of Agrippa, which should have been similar or equal to his share of auxiliaries in Vespasian's Jewish Campaign. Thx for the response, Dierk For private reply, e-mail to "Dierk van den Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: "unsubscribe Orion." Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il.
