Victory, You write: "1) What does Buffy the Vampire Slayer have to do with DSS?"
I'll bite.... what DOES Buffy have to do with the DSS? Your more serious question was: 2) Could you specify what yo mean by desire to use a pun to turn "praise" into "shame". Thanks, Victor [END OF CLIP] I'm sure you are familiar with some words and names that have been amended to make the bible writer's disapproval of someone fairly evident. So it doesn't take too much imagination to think that the Jerusalem leadership might not have wanted to preserve the more "favorable" meaning of the word Samaritan as "keeper" or "doer" [of the law]. While there is no obvious "shame" in the replacement meaning "Watcher".... it does help to remove the "keeper/ doer" halo from the Samaritans. Further, we see an odd use of a word that is phonetically quite similar to the term related to Samaritan: 08105 shemer {sheh'-mer} from 08104; TWOT - 2415a; n m pl AV - lees 4, dregs 1; 5 1) lees, dregs Here we see "shemer" = "dregs". But below, we have the adjacent Strong's word: 08104 shamar {shaw-mar'} a primitive root; TWOT - 2414; v AV - keep 283, observe 46, heed 35, keeper 28, preserve 21, beware 9, mark 8, watchman 8, wait 7, watch 7, regard 5, save 2, misc 9; 468 1) to keep, guard, observe, give heed 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to keep, have charge of 1a2) to keep, guard, keep watch and ward, protect, save life 1a2a) watch, watchman (participle) 1a3) to watch for, wait for 1a4) to watch, observe 1a5) to keep, retain, treasure up (in memory) 1a6) to keep (within bounds), restrain 1a7) to observe, celebrate, keep (sabbath or covenant or commands), perform (vow) 1a8) to keep, preserve, protect 1a9) to keep, reserve 1b) (Niphal) 1b1) to be on one's guard, take heed, take care, beware 1b2) to keep oneself, refrain, abstain 1b3) to be kept, be guarded 1c) (Piel) to keep, pay heed 1d) (Hithpael) to keep oneself from [END OF CLIP] As you can see, this word follows quite closely to the idea of "keeping" and "preserving". I'm trying to find a concise reference to the difference of opinion between the Jews and Samaritans on how their name was TRULY derived. But in terms of the Enochian "watchers".... it seems hard to avoid the "pun" of connecting the wicked and unpopular angels (called Watchers)... to the wicked and unpopular Samaritans (called Watchers, Keepers, and so on). George [SIDE NOTE] I found it interesting that there was another word that is ALSO connected to idea of "keeping" or "preserving": 05341 natsar {naw-tsar'} a primitive root; TWOT - 1407; v AV - keep 38, preserve 13, watchmen 3, besieged 2, keeper 1, monuments 1, observe + 07521 1, preserver 1, subtil 1, hidden things 1, watchers 1; 63 1) to guard, watch, watch over, keep 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to watch, guard, keep 1a2) to preserve, guard from dangers 1a3) to keep, observe, guard with fidelity 1a4) to guard, keep secret 1a5) to be kept close, be blockaded 1a6) watchman (participle) I find it more than passingly interesting that this word should be so phonetically similar to another term that gets thrown around alot: 05342 netser {nay'-tser} from 05341 TWOT - 1408a; n m AV - branch 4; 4 1) sprout, shoot, branch (always fig.) For private reply, e-mail to George Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: "unsubscribe Orion." Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)