Roy T. Fielding wrote:
On Jul 17, 2005, at 4:16 AM, Enrique Rodriguez wrote:
... we do not expect to need CLAs from any "significant contributors." Although it is allowed by the OSGi charter (and the FAQ on the website states members can even charge royalties!), in practice it is not done, since the other members would balk.

I do not understand that statement.  Are you saying that nobody
other than an OSGi employee contributed copyrightable material
or patentable inventions to the final specification?  Or are you
saying that there is some other agreement that the members have
signed that clears such issues for this specification?  Or for R4?

Yes, I am saying that for R4 this should be clarified. I say "should" meaning nothing has been released in a final version and I am not privy to OSGi Alliance proceedings. But, this is the intent as I understand it:

1) OSGi members providing materials, as well as non-members providing specification feedback, license said materials and feedback to OSGi.

2) OSGi grants rights to "you" via clarifications in the R4 spec, in particular by a new Terms and Conditions statement that specifically addresses your concern with the lack of explicit license.

3)  Further, specification sources are released under the EPL.

2) Everyone on this thread is reviewing statements on the website and the current specification related to version R3. Our intention is to implement R4, which will be released shortly ... the specification
sources will be released under the Eclipse Public License.

That is excellent news.  Would it be possible to make a development
version of that specification (with its EPL terms) available for
download relatively soon?

Yes, once we have our SVN repo setup ;-). Let me double check, but the more stable portions of R4 are available in an "Early Draft" form and "Feedback License" that should allow us to commit this to a repo, or at least private committers repo.

Relatively soon, we'll hopefully see R4 in a final version, in which everything should be much better clarified.

I'd like to add that in the event that we need to gather CLA's we are prepared to do that.

Enrique

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