I expect that once the OSGi Alliance releases a final osgi.jar file with source, then we will check that into our repo and make mods to tie it to our framework where necessary and possibly make any other improvement/changes we deem necessary.

The OSGi Alliance won't (at least they didn't in the past) release updates to this JAR file, so we won't have to worry about re-patching until R5, would be my guess.

This seems manageable.

re: one jar versus two, I prefer two, since it makes it easier for me to "see" the size of our implementation, but I might be able to be convinced otherwise.

-> richard

Brett Porter wrote:

On 8/27/05, Richard S. Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For me, this was more an issue of letting things settle down a little
bit. Everything is so fluid right now that it seems like we'd be chasing
our tails.

Definitely a good idea, but I'd also avoid letting anything settle
down which is known to be somiething you want to change as things can
pick up fast and they get harder and harder to change.

You have to expect dependencies from felix.jar to osgi.jar. The reverse
dependencies are a little more tricky and ugly. The ugly part is that I
just grabbed the R4 sources from Eclipse since they are under EPL so
that we would have them to compile against until the official R4 release
comes out which will also be under EPL; Eclipse has dependencies back
into their framework, so I just hacked them to get them to compile with
Felix. The tricky part is that we will probably want these circular
dependencies too, because this is done for optimization purposes.

I don't think this is an issue of Mavenization, as I think it needs to
be addressed in the Ant build anyway (and you can get Maven to do what
you are doing now with a little encouragement, but it isn't
recommended).

So, if osgi.jar and felix.jar are going to forever be linked in this
way, they have to reside together and you can't substitute another
container for felix or another osgi spec jar without changing the
other. In which case, they should just be one JAR. Problem solved :)

This cuts back to how the R4 sources will be managed going forward,
which I've discussed with you before. Will we be maintaining our own
version of the R4 sources, constantly copying changes from the EPL
sources, will they be frozen, or will we eventually use a
redistributable JAR?

I think from earlier discussions we've established that all of those
are acceptable from a licensing standpoint, but from a technical
standpoint the first one sounds downright scary, the second reasonable
(but still scary as I'm sure there will be revisions and then it
reverts to the first) and third preferable as it means that osgi.jar
and felix.jar can be independant.

Regardless, IMO if we maintain the sources and there is a circular
dep, I think producing one JAR is the best way to go.

WDYT?

- Brett




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