Title: RE: DHCP and OSCAR (was RE: [Oscar-devel] RE: [Oscar-checkins] r4667 - in trunk: lib/OSCAR packages/oda packages/sis/scripts scripts)

This topic was briefly discussed today (for those of us at the HPCS/OSCAR Symposium).  It sounds like we have no problem assuming that everybody will use DHCP so I will take this assumption when I implement changes/fixes in the next little while.

Basically, I will take Erich's suggestion about automatically setting up DHCP Server upon pressing the "Enable Installation Mode" in the "Setup Networking" widget (this is a new button in the GUI I checked in recently).

Secondly, the following bug:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=630103&group_id=9368&atid=109368

Will be fixed such that the dhcpd.conf will be re-generated after a node is deleted, and dhcpd will also be re-started automatically.

I think Brian mentioned that it may not be necessary to re-start dhcpd for configuration settings to take effect, but this may only be supported by a particular version of DHCP.

At any rate, I will implement the fixes as soon as I have access to a cluster for testing (which probably means when I get back home).

Cheers,

Bernard


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Bernard Li
Sent: Tue 09/05/2006 17:47
To: Michael Edwards; Ted Powell
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: DHCP and OSCAR (was RE: [Oscar-devel] RE: [Oscar-checkins] r4667 - in trunk: lib/OSCAR packages/oda packages/sis/scripts scripts)

I'd like to have a resolution for this thread, does anybody see a big
deal if we just stick with a purely DHCP setup?

ORNL, IU, any comments regarding this?

Cheers,

Bernard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 21:18
> To: Ted Powell
> Cc: Bernard Li; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Oscar-devel] RE: [Oscar-checkins] r4667 - in
> trunk: lib/OSCAR packages/oda packages/sis/scripts scripts
>
> Interesting, but since OSCAR doesn't touch the nodes until they are
> network booted the first time, how would you implement this type of
> setup without preconfiguring each node?
>
> I probably was using etherboot to network boot the node anyway, would
> that make any difference?
>
> On 5/4/06, Ted Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 10:49:22AM -0500, Michael Edwards wrote:
> > > The only configuration I can see this being helpful with is if the
> > > cluster is routed through a public network with an existing DHCP
> > > server.  Since there isn't any way (that I know of) to aim at a
> > > particular server,
> >
> > The protocol does not require a client to respond to the
> first DHCPOFFER
> > that it receives, so you can achieve this effect by simply
> waiting for
> > the right one to come along. The ISC client--the one that
> comes with Red
> > Hat--does not have a straightforward way (that I know of)
> to tell it to
> > do that, but the Oscar DHCP server can be configured in
> /etc/dhcpd.conf
> > to define a "site-local" option that is not known to any
> other reachable
> > server. Then each Oscar client is configured in
> dhclient.conf to "require"
> > that option to be sent by any responding server.
> >
> > >                    you have no way of making certain you
> are going to
> > > hit the right one. [...]
> >
> > But you can eliminate all the wrong ones by adding a
> "reject" statement
> > to dhclient.conf for the server identifier of each wrong
> one that pops up.
> >
> > This is more chancy. If somebody adds some piece of equipment to the
> > network without telling the sysadmin, and that device turns out to
> > contain an active DHCP server, with some arbitrary server
> identifier,
> > it can take a while to find out what the problem is, add
> another reject
> > statement, and get it out to all the clients.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ted Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   http://psg.com/~ted/
> > "If you don't look, you don't know."
> >     Dr. Sam Ting, Nobel laureate experimental physicist.
> >
>


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