Sean, 
I had a problem with a uni box last week, trying to
run the SMP kernel. That's where this whole thread
started -- the uni box got as far as 'welcome to red
hat linux' and then died without a clue.  THen I
booted the node in recovery mode, changed lilo.conf to
point to a uni kernel instead of an SMP, and
everything went fine after that.  Now, the uni I had
is an old 233 mhz Pentium II, so I'm not sure it's a
valid test case, I just want to point out that on at
least some older hardware, the smp kernel does not
work on the unis.. Rich

--- Sean Dague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not sure about the Mandrake kernels.  However if
> you ask a kernel
> developer, they'll tell you that a vanilla SMP
> kernel will run fine on a UP
> box, you will just loose some performance because of
> extra locking.
> 
> My guess is that many of the patches are not SMP /
> UP clean.
> 
>       -Sean
> 
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 04:20:10PM -0400, Thomas
> Naughton wrote:
> > sean,
> > 
> > so you're saying that the SMP kernels shipped w/
> say MDK are more
> > versitile than those packaged w/ RH?  The SMP
> kernel thing has hit us
> > twice now, XTORC and a VMware cluster.  
> > 
> > just curious if MDK's packaged RPMs would not hit
> this problem on say
> > VMware virtual clusters, etc.  No big deal now,
> just curious.
> > 
> > --tjn
> > 
> > 
>
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> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Sean Dague wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:45:02PM -0500, Jason
> B. wrote:
> > > > As it is, we figure out whether the nodes are
> UP or SMP at some point.  If
> > > > the nodes get both installed (which they do),
> SIS should make the appropriate one
> > > > the default boot kernel when it sets up LILO.
> > > 
> > > The issue here is that SIS uses a UP kernel for
> install, so it can't detect
> > > whether or not there are more processors there. 
> SMP kernels should run on
> > > UP boxes in most cases, however the Red Hat
> kernels seem very problematic in
> > > this regard.
> > > 
> > >   -Sean 
> > > 
> > > > Jason
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Steven A. DuChene wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 10:52:11AM -0500,
> brechin wrote:
> > > > > > Actually, this seems to be an issue of
> trying to run an SMP kernel on a UP
> > > > > > box.  This is a recurring issue that has
> been ignored, but we now have another
> > > > > > chance to fix the problem.  Anyone think
> we ought to do something about this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jason
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >===== Original Message From "Steven A.
> DuChene"
> > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =====
> > > > > > >On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 07:06:34AM -0700,
> Richard Ferri wrote:
> > > > > > >> Steve,
> > > > > > >> I am running RedHat 7.2, the 2.4.7-10
> kernel.
> > > > > > >> Once I moved from the SMP kernel to the
> UP kernel,
> > > > > > >> life was good... Rich
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Yes, this is a known issue with some
> versions of RedHat. I don't
> > > > > > >know if they fixed it yet in 7.3
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I don't have many non-SMP boxes here so I
> can't test this problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > It requires running a UP kernel on a UP
> node. Do we have anyway of determining
> > > > > this? How will we know if a particular
> distro even packages both a UP kernel
> > > > > as well as a SMP one? I know most do but we
> would have to figure out the
> > > > > naming convention for each distro.
> > > > >
> > > > > I guessing that fixing this will require
> some unusual trickery by SIS that
> > > > > gets awefully close to altering the generic
> install methods for what ever distro
> > > > > we are layering oscar on top of.
> > > > >
> > > > > I recall our software devel team at VA
> having this same issue. I "think" they
> > > > > fixed it by fixing/changing something in the
> kernel but off the top of my head
> > > > > I don't recall what it was. Can anyone
> determine if this same problem still
> > > > > occurs with the kernels packaged with
> RedHat-7.3 ???
> > > > > --
> > > > > Steven A. DuChene     
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> > > > >
> > > > >         http://www.mindspring.com/~sduchene/
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
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> > > There is no silver bullet.  Plus, werewolves
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> > > zombies, and they tend to keep the vampire
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> > >
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