Hey Jason:

I never had to muck around with the modules.conf file, perhaps you can
omit this step?

It probably is a good idea to start a clean slate.  You only need to
press the 'setup network boot' button once, and then you can copy the
kernel boot files to /tftpboot and you should never need to touch them
again.

Hopefully it'll work this time with a clean install - BTW, you mentioned
crashes with RH9, what kind of crashes (any error logs?) - Also, have
you installed all the updates that are available from RedHat?

Cheers,

Bernard 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Hlady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 11:18
> To: Frank Crawford
> Cc: Bernard Li; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jason Hlady
> Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] RH9.0, Oscar3.0, Dell 
> 1750PowerEdge, tg3 install woes
> 
> Some very strange goings-on:
> 
> I did in fact try updating the files in /tftpboot, and that 
> seemed to make the difference: for a brief time (enough to 
> image 61/64 nodes) was able to image them!  The tg3 error 
> went away and I was able to image them.  However, on the 64th 
> node, suddenly (I believe without any intervention from me) 
> the boot error (tg3: problem fetching invariants) began again 
> (the other two nodes were 3 and 39--I just missed their 
> netboots accidentally).
> 
> I tried for several hours to reproduce the successful server 
> setup, with Frank's tarball unzipped in 
> /usr/share/systemimager/boot/i386/standard, and copying the 
> kernel and initrd.img to /tftpboot over and over again at 
> various different times, etc., but have been unable to 
> reproduce the halcyon days of 3:30 in the afternoon 
> yesterday, where everything ephemerally worked.
> 
> The good news is that we know that the imaging CAN work on 
> these nodes. 
>   The bad news is that I haven't had much luck reproducing 
> it, and this is silly, because I've done it before!
> 
> Currently, my error (when trying to image the nodes) is the 
> tg3 error again, and it definitely is v. 1.5 (1.2 also doesn't work).
> 
> I have been going around in circles now trying to reproduce 
> something that I think should work to the point that I am frazzled.
> 
> To get this to work properly again (for imaging at a later 
> date) maybe I should just reinstall the OS and everything 
> from scratch.  I think that all I should have to do is:
> 
> a) copy Frank's tarball to /usr/share/systemimager/boot/i386/standard
> b) tar xvf it
> c) copy /usr/share/systemimager/boot/i386/standard/kernel and 
> /usr/share/systemimager/boot/i386/standard/initrd.img to /tftpboot
> d) ensure that I have
> /var/lib/system/systemimager/overrides/IMAGENAME/etc/modules.conf
> consistent with the 1750s
> e) choose "Network Setup" in OSCAR installer and "prepare 
> network boot"
> 
> and go (I've tried copying Frank's kernel and initrd.img both 
> before and after choosing prepare network boot from the oscar 
> installer.).
> 
> Incidentally, the head node is a Dell 2650 (all the other 
> nodes are 1750s), and it's crashing occasionally running RH 
> 9.0, which is not good--I'm going to have to fix that before 
> we go to production.  Anyone run into this problem?
> 
> Jason
> 
> 
> On Sep 21, 2004, at 7:32 PM, Frank Crawford wrote:
> 
> > Jason,
> >     Can you get one other piece of info, what kernel does 
> the workstation 
> > think it is booting.  Basically the first line or two of the boot 
> > should give the version number, etc.
> >
> >     You are right that your problems sound so similar, and 
> more likely 
> > related to the wrong kernel booting.  I'm pretty sure that the tg3 
> > driver was 1.4, not 1.2, so it does look like the wrong kernel.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 05:23, Jason Hlady wrote:
> >> I just tried using the stock kernel files from OSCAR;
> >>
> >> I got very similar results:
> >>
> >> tg3.c: v1.2 (Nov 14, 2002)
> >> tg3: Problem fetching invariants of chip, aborting
> >> tg3: Problem fetching invariants of chip, aborting
> >> sk98lin: no adapter found
> >>
> >> <stuff>
> >>
> >> VFS: Mounted root (cramfs filesystem) Mounted devfs on 
> /dev Freeing 
> >> unused kernel memory: 524k freed kernel NULL pointer 
> dereference at 
> >> virtual address 00000000 kernel panic
> >>
> >> Yes, it is possible that the NICs that are in these 1750s 
> have been 
> >> changed from the previous version of 1750s, without them 
> telling us, 
> >> and possibly the NICs no longer work with the drivers.  
> Grrrr.  The 
> >> fact that the errors we are getting are so similar to 
> previous errors 
> >> that other people have seen (i.e. this tg3 invariants error), 
> >> however, makes me wonder if I'm just doing something wrong.  Am I 
> >> correct that making a modification to 
> >> /usr/share/systemimager/boot/i386/standard/*
> >> (i.e. kernel, config, boel_binaries.gz) and then restarting the 
> >> "setup networking" should be sufficient?  That is, I don't 
> actually 
> >> need to modify the files in /tftpboot because they will have been 
> >> automatically changed by those two steps?
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 21, 2004, at 12:01 PM, Bernard Li wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Jason:
> >>>
> >>> I have used Frank Crawford's files with a wide variety of bcm57xx 
> >>> nics and they all work fine...  I guess it's possible 
> that you are 
> >>> using nics that don't work with the drivers?
> >>>
> >>> Have you also tried using the stock kernel files from 
> OSCAR and see 
> >>> if that gives you different error messages?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Bernard
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Jason Hlady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 10:33
> >>>> To: Bernard Li
> >>>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jason Hlady; 
> Frank Crawford
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] RH9.0, Oscar3.0, Dell 
> 1750PowerEdge, tg3 
> >>>> install woes
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 21, 2004, at 11:10 AM, Bernard Li wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hey Jason:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just a quick question - are the specs of the 2 sets of
> >>>> PowerEdge 1750
> >>>>> identical?  It seems kind of odd that it worked on the original 
> >>>>> hardware but not the newer one, unless they have some subtle 
> >>>>> changes...  Also, do they both have SCSI harddrives...?
> >>>>
> >>>> No, I imagine that the hardware is not exactly the same, simply 
> >>>> because it works on one and not the other.  They both have SCSI 
> >>>> hard drives (different size and speed, but that 
> shouldn't matter), 
> >>>> both using the onboard NICs....  As to the exact specs, that's 
> >>>> something I haven't actually tracked down, but given that it's 
> >>>> having trouble with the NICs (and possibly the SCSI system) I 
> >>>> didn't check out component-by-component what has changed.  I 
> >>>> certainly can do that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jason
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bernard
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> >>>>>> Jason Hlady
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:52
> >>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>> Cc: Frank Crawford; Jason Hlady
> >>>>>> Subject: [Oscar-users] RH9.0, Oscar3.0, Dell 1750PowerEdge,
> >>>>>> tg3 install woes
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is an especially frustrating help letter to have 
> to write. 
> >>>>>> :)  I will explain why:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1) I have successfully used (December '03) OSCAR 3.0 on Redhat 
> >>>>>> 9.0 to install on 32 Dell PowerEdge 1750 servers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2) Recently, another researcher has purchased a 64 
> node cluster 
> >>>>>> of Dell PowerEdge 1750 servers (the servers arrived September 
> >>>>>> '04) and I am setting this cluster up using RH9 and 
> OSCAR 3.0.  I 
> >>>>>> am attempting to use the exact same configuration as I 
> used for 
> >>>>>> MY cluster, which is happily running OSCAR right now.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I pursued the standard install of OSCAR.  Because I've 
> done this 
> >>>>>> once before on what should presumably be identical hardware, I 
> >>>>>> remembered
> >>>>>> to:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> a) replace 
> /usr/share/systemimager/boot/i386/standard/* with the 
> >>>>>> tarfile from Frank Crawford, who had given me the 
> >>>>>> boel_binaries.tar.gz, kernel, config, and initrd.img 
> files that 
> >>>>>> will be used.  This EXACT set of files enabled me to do the 
> >>>>>> imaging on my cluster of PowerEdge 1750s in December of 2003.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> b) create an
> >>>> /var/lib/systemimager/override/IMAGENAME/etc/modules.conf
> >>>>>> containing the EXACT same file as that file on my previous 
> >>>>>> cluster so that the machines would remember to load 
> the drivers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However, when I start up network boot on the new server, and 
> >>>>>> netboot one of the new clients, it gets DHCP, receives the 
> >>>>>> correct DHCP address, and then begins to load the 
> imaging kernel.  
> >>>>>> However, I get the following errors (I had to write 
> them down, so 
> >>>>>> these are just excerpts, albeit in
> >>>> chronological order)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> tg3: (02:00.0) phy probe failed, err -16
> >>>>>> tg3: problem fetching invariants of chip, aborting
> >>>>>> tg3: (02:00.1) phy probe failed, err -16
> >>>>>> tg3: problem fetching invariants of chip, aborting
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <stuff>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
> >>>>>> kmod: failed to execv /sbin/modprobe -s -k
> >>>> scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> < stuff>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> FusionMPT base driver 2.03.00
> >>>>>> mptbase: Initiating ioc0 bringup
> >>>>>> mptbase: ioc0: WARNING: unexpected doorbell active
> >>>>>> mptbase: ioc0: ERROR: doorbell ACK timeout (2)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <more stuff>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> VFS: Mounted root (cramfs filesystem) Mounted devfs on /dev 
> >>>>>> Freeing unused kernel memory: 524k freed Unable to 
> handle kernel 
> >>>>>> NULL pointer dereference at virtual address <>
> >>>>>> EIP: 0060:<c0264257>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> < BUNCH OF NUMBERS>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kernel panic: attempted to stop init!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And then it dies.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is pretty annoying.  I had assumed that it would 
> JUST WORK 
> >>>>>> given that the hardware, software, and operating 
> system (except 
> >>>>>> for the head node, which is a 2650) is (nominally?) 
> identical in 
> >>>>>> both cases.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I did a little searching on the net for this "tg3: problem 
> >>>>>> fetching invariants of chip, aborting" error, and turned
> >>>> up this link,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
> >>>>>> msg00705.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> which has another source of these boel_binaries, etc 
> that should 
> >>>>>> ALSO work.  They do not work either for this new cluster I am 
> >>>>>> attempting to
> >>>>>> install: they get a similar tg3 error, and then fail.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is going on here?  I've read that some people have been 
> >>>>>> happy with
> >>>>>> tg3 and some with bc5700... I was perfectly happy with 
> tg3 until 
> >>>>>> they don't seem to work for these *particular* Dell
> >>>> 1750s. :-(
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And what about the kmod: failed to execv /sbin/modprobe -s -k 
> >>>>>> scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2 error?  Does that suggest that it 
> >>>>>> hasn't correctly loaded the SCSI driver EITHER?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions?  What exactly is 
> involved (as 
> >>>>>> much detail as possible would be appreciated) in 
> trying to make 
> >>>>>> my very own set of boel_binaries/kernel/initrd.img?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Have I missed something really obvious?  Can anybody suggest 
> >>>>>> something?
> >>>>>>   Everyone was so helpful getting it to work correctly 
> the first 
> >>>>>> time that I thought I'd take another crack at the list. :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks a bunch,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --------------
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> >>>>>> Programmer/Analyst (Bioinformatics Specialist) U of 
> Saskatchewan, 
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