Art: You mentioned YaST - are you familiar with AutoYaST? Can I bug you offlist about it? ;-)
Thanks, Bernard > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Art Wildman > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:21 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] Oscar Web Gui > > James M Stephenson wrote: > > Ted Powell wrote: > >> On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 11:41:12PM -0500, James M Stephenson wrote: > >> > >>> All, > >>> I would like to know what kind of enhancements you > might like to > >>> see to the OSCAR Gui if it were implemented in a web mode. I am > >>> applying for the Google Summer of Code 2006 and would like some > >>> feedback from the user community in the case that I am > selected. I > >>> myself as an OSCAR user would benefit from this. > >>> > >>> --Matt > >>> > >> > >> I connect to the head node of the cluster I'm developing > using SSH with > >> X forwarding, and the GUI shows up on my 2880x1200 monitor > pair just > >> fine. > >> > >> Are you unable to use SSH and/or X between your preferred > work location > >> and your cluster, and are therefore looking for an > alternative access > >> method? > >> > >> Or do you see some possible benefits to using a web > browser for display > >> instead of the Qt and/or Tk toolkits? > >> > >> I'm not yet far enough into OSCAR to comment one way or > the other on the > >> quality of the existing GUI's _use_ of Qt/Tk (looks fine > so far), but > >> I do know enough about the Qt and Tk toolkits to hold the > opinion that > >> their _capabilities_ are well in excess of those of a generic web > >> browser. > >> > >> Of course, I could be missing something; hence my questions. > >> > >> > > The goal would be to enable scientists that are not as familiar to > > using X be able to maintain the cluster without them having > to waste > > valuable time in learning how to setup and configure an X-server on > > their own PC. Clustering in my experience is typically > used where a > > group of engineers/scientists that want something simulated > get some > > developers to create the programs, and then they get rid of the > > developers and just use the final product over and over > again. I am > > working right now with an optics lab doing simulations of > emag fields > > in a medium. The other lab workers and the professor consider > > learning anything unix a burden, so its to soften the burden for > > people like that. Not something a programmer would use necessarily. > > > > --Matt > > > > > > I have found the use of VNC to be helpful on the head node > for a few GUI > applications, it has the benefit of running at runlevel 3, > tunnels over > ssh and has well developed VNC win32 clients which most users can > manage. I have also used Webmin and SWAT webshells and found > that they > are OK for trained sysadmins, but one must know what they are > doing to > use them and they are slow over SSL. Many 3rd party modules already > exist for Webmin & some are related to clusters. "WYSIWYG: > The problems > with GUIs is, what you see is ALL you get." > > VNC over SSH2 - A TightVNC Tutorial > http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/VNC/vnc-over-ssh.html > Set up the VNC Server in Fedora > http://www.raoul.shacknet.nu/2005/11/10/configure-vnc-server-i > n-fedora/ > redhat.com | Taking your desktop virtual with VNC, part 2 > http://www.redhat.com/magazine/007may05/features/vnc/ > > Webmin & Usermin- http://www.webmin.com/ > http://webmin.com/ssl.html > http://www.webmin.com/uintro.html > http://rpmforge.net/user/packages/webmin/ > http://webadminmodules.sourceforge.net/?page=Cluster > Simple tasks like adding a user are fairly straight forward, > configuring > complex services like Apache, DNS or Samba requires training > even in a GUI. > http://www.webmin.com/screens.html > http://www.webmin.com/screens/edit_user.gif > http://www.webmin.com/screens/apache.gif > The Book of Webmin > http://www.swelltech.com/support/pdfs/webminguide.pdf > > YaST - Yet Another Setup Tool > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YaST > http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=145&slide=1 > > Be careful not to reinvent the wheel. Other Thin Client & NX > solutions > may apply & improve performance or not, some OSS/FS some > commercial (NX, > Citrix, Tarantella...) > Linux Terminal Server Project - http://www.ltsp.org/ > http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ScreenScripts > http://www.rdesktop.org/ > FreeNX Howto > http://www.gnomeuser.org/documents/howto/nx.html > HOWTO setup Freenx on Fedora - FedoraNEWS.ORG > http://fedoranews.org/contributors/rick_stout/freenx/ > http://www.nomachine.com/management_tools.php > http://www.2x.com/pxes/ > http://www.citrix.com/ > http://thinstation.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/ThIndex > > Perhaps some new Java/AJAX/Rails WebShell could be developed that > performs better than Webmin, but it would be nice to utilize > any admin > plugins and modules already created. > http://ajax.phpmagazine.net/2006/04/zimbra_ale_ajax_linking_an > d_em.html > http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=153217 > http://www.zimbra.com/products/ss_admin_new_account.html > > -HTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost > and Risk! > Fully trained technicians. 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