On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Jason Hibbets <jhibb...@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi Jason, Hi list, The OpenCar folks seem interesting. Good to see they're GENIVI members. ;) If I may pick some nits, I would take some small exceptions to their characterization of the community and also note a distinction between "telematics" and "In-Vehicle Infotainment" (IVI). Firstly, there are open standards available now. I'm not sure what Jeff means when he says "for all of this", perhaps he means telematics, in which case he may be mostly right, but for IVI there are existing standards available and more being delivered. The W3C is already working with the community, like GENIVI, and even proprietary OSes like QNX: http://www.w3.org/community/autowebplatform/ In addition, GENIVI has already published a web vehicle API (and App!) that demonstrates the web API into the vehicle: http://git.projects.genivi.org/?p=web-api-vehicle.git;a=summary So the good news is that there is a "standard" under development, from a recognized standards body, with broad industry participation, (BMW are there for example amongst others.) HTML 5 in cars is currently being looked at by nearly every car company but native apps are likely to remain popular for business and technical reasons in the mid-term. OpenCar is right to focus on driver distraction and safety. There are lot of distraction issues with all the possibilities of the connected car. Overall I feel their assessment is somewhat negative regarding the possibility of opening up much of the IVI and telematics ecosystem, but I'm more optimistic than they. Of course, my position as Community Manager at GENIVI would likely require a bit of optimism, but from where I stand I see some pretty open platforms that look an awful lot like standard GNU/Linux with GPL licenses to boot! Cheers, Jeremiah Thanks for sharing. I went to a session at OSCON last week about "open > cars." Not much to report other than they are not quite open source yet, > but are gearing up to release their SDK. They are basically looking to > standardize the in-car entertainment and data systems. I've added my notes > below, which may or may not make that much sense. I'm hoping to follow-up > with the presenters in a story on opensoure.com. > > Jason > > Open Source Automotive Development, Jeff Payne (OpenCar, Inc.), Sam > Skjonsberg (OpenCar, Inc.) > The car is becoming a personal mobile command center, but drivers can’t > let go of their devices. The automobile industry is moving forward with > creating proprietary software for device sensors, onboard entertainment, > controls, and host services. There is a need to create an ecosystem around > these unique attributes in the auto industry “It will be a long time before > there are open standards for all of this” said Jeff Payne, OpenCar Inc. > But where does the user experience meet automotive safety? There is a long > list of safety standards and OpenCar has developed a set of safety > principles for their project. Some of the items in this list include: not > distracting or visually entertaining the driver, ensuring all text and > icons are legible, and maintaining ample contrast in all lighting > situations. We’re beginning to see the emergence of the the “car as a > platform” and the outstanding question is, will this platform be open or > not? > > * Drivers can’t let go of their device. 1.1 million distraction-related > injuries. > * Developer motivation: develop interest, choice, consumer interest, large > addressable market > * Seeing an entire industry, big industry really transitioning. > * Need to create an ecosystem. Unique attributes: device sensors, onboard > entertainment, control, host services, host platform differences > * published APIs for automakers proprietary software > * lock-in developers to a single OEM brand (W3C has not come forward > but they have telematics data) > * It will be a long time before there are open standards for all of this > [auto industry] > * The car as a platform: CAN, Lin buses, OBD!!, other feeds: GPS, > telephony, etc. > * HTML5 in cars: embedded browser in IVI, eg WebKit > * Safety principles: do not distract or visually entertain the driver, > complete tasks in short seq. glances, all text and icon are legible, ample > contrast in all lighting situations, interaction sequences are > interruptable and resumable, interaction pace is controlled by the driver, > system feedback is timely and clear, drive does not need to keep eyes on > display > > > On 07/25/2013 05:02 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote: > >> More at this link: >> http://www.linuxfoundation.**org/news-media/blogs/browse/** >> 2013/07/linux-fuels-**automotive-innovation-call-** >> automotive-linux-summit<http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/blogs/browse/2013/07/linux-fuels-automotive-innovation-call-automotive-linux-summit> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jeremiah >> >> -- >> ==============================**=============== >> Jeremiah C. 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