Gentlemen, If you believe that the future of Open Source should be in the application area, your example of using a small portion of Quick Books revenue to improve an Open Source product are missing the entire process of having users.... Commercialization, advertising, Customer service, documentation, help systems... at the end of the entire process is the technical product (program). The technically most important part of a product, is almost the least important part of bringing a solution to the real world. Try looking at the almost non-existent market penetration of Libre Office / Open Office is due to the price, FREE, means nobody telling me why I want to use the product, nobody telling me the product exists (NO advertising), no training seminars for VARS, no product co-commissions = NO REASON I SHOULD Hustle my users into the product. I will get to service the product and get nothing for recommending it.
John A. Ward -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 09:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Osdc-list Digest, Vol 71, Issue 5 Send Osdc-list mailing list submissions to [email protected] subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/osdc-listor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of Osdc-list digest..."Today's Topics: 1. DRAFT: Manifesto for an Open Future (Kael Shipman) 2. Re: DRAFT: Manifesto for an Open Future (Bryan Behrenshausen)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 21:28:32 -0500From: Kael Shipman To: OSDC List Subject: [Osdc-list] DRAFT: Manifesto for an Open FutureMessage-ID: <[email protected]>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8Hey all!I've been playing with a project for the last few weeks and I'm at apoint where I'd really love some feedback and/or help on it. As thesubject implies, it's a manifesto that attempts to describe what theOpen Future might look like. I'm creating it as a way to inspire ashared vision to use throughout the community as we developtechnologies, software, protocols and business ideas. My dream is thatonce it's done (i.e., once we've managed to put it through the wringeras a community and come out with a document we can all more or lessagree on, if that's possible), I can use it to guide the work that I donow and into the future, and perhaps others might find it useful forthat as well. For example, when I look for jobs, I can look forcompanies that represent an opportunity for me to build a small piece ofthe open future, or when I look for education, I can look to cultivateskills that will better allow me to contribute to it.The manifesto itself is an attempt to provide three elements: 1)convincing evidence that an open future is inevitable; 2) an image ofwhat it might look like and how it might work; and 3) a set of concretesteps we can take now to hasten its arrival, including building certainpieces of infrastructure.I'm writing it in response to the frustration that I've felt in tryingto drive open principles forward today. Many of these principles don'tquite work yet because, personally, I don't believe we have realizedquite where we're going with it all, or just how much infrastructurewe'll need to get there. Just as a basic example, Quickbooks Online nowpulls in $30,000,000 every month. If even 1/10th of the customers whopay for Quickbooks online instead put a single QBO payment into GNUCashinstead, we'd have a product far better than Quickbooks, and the wholeworld would benefit from it -- not just those who paid.The ROI on this proposition is obvious enough that even a child couldgrasp the implications -- yet we don't have systems in place to leverageit. The action item, then, is to fortify our systems for linkingpayments to features (BountySource is an open-source start to that, buthas a long way to go), and to start getting progressive businesses(probably starting with the ones we work at) to redirect their softwarebudgets to open-source projects.There are a number of other concrete things like this that we can do tostart moving in the direction of the Open Future, and I think having amanifesto in hand that helps us remember what that future looks like andwhat we can do to encourage it would be extremely useful.So, without further ado, here is the unfinished draft so far:https://raw.githubusercontent.com/kael-shipman/Manifesto-for-an-Open-Future/master/Manifesto%20for%20an%20Open%20Future.fodt(you'll have to download it and open it in LibreOffice)And here's the full github repo:https://github.com/kael-shipman/Manifesto-for-an-Open-FutureI look forward to hearing what people have to say! If anyone wants tohelp, please do shoot me a line. The irony of drafting a document likethis alone is far from lost on me ;).Thanks for your time,Kael------------------------------Message: 2Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 10:32:42 -0400From: Bryan Behrenshausen To: [email protected]: Re: [Osdc-list] DRAFT: Manifesto for an Open FutureMessage-ID: <[email protected]>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252Hi Kael,Neat! I look forward to reading and exploring this. Openness needs moremanifestos, for sure.In that vein, you might also consider checking out Robert David Steele'ssimilarly-titled project:http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12998524-the-open-source-everything-manifestoBryan------------------------------_______________________________________________Sign-up for our weekly newsletter: http://opensource.com/email-newsletterOsdc-list mailing [email protected]https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/osdc-listEnd of Osdc-list Digest, Vol 71, Issue 5****************************************
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