[osdcmy-public] Re: Support In Open Source Solution

[Marcus]

Hi Hasanuddin, You can deploy your solution on VMware on Windows Server if its linux based. If they ask why, you say "This is virtualization in action, fully supported by Windows Server" If its PHP based app, just load in the WAMP package on Windows, works the same. Marcus. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar wrote: I am completely agree with Marcus, they rather run Win Server for various reasons. I just deal a project from a Malaysian broadcasting company for a few solutions. The deal came smoothly but I got a few words from the sysadmin, "You must do them on Windows Server because I don't know Linux"... I rather choose Linux for the base because of hardware's drivers and sotfwares. So how do you think? any suggestion to deal with him? Hasanuddin Abu Bakar ------------------------------- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Marcus <mar...@python.my> wrote: Welcome to the other real world. You have to face it, for most normal  IT admins today, they have so much to do, they rather run Win Server of which any SI companies are able to support and of which the features are rock solid. When something screws up, its bound to be in the knowledge base of MSDN and fixes are already in Autoupdate. Digging forums is a complete waste of time unless its your hobby or personal interest in the project, at the end if someone has to pay, they don't really care if its  open source or not, after all, how many are programmers at heart or have time to even look at the source codes. In Windows, when you ask for support if this guy can't do it, there are thousands lining up to serve you and each with a low price, as an end user or Admin you get the power to choose. What is FREE initially, might not be cheaper in bottom line. Read : http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1332528,00.html Read the attached pdf of a study of Windows Server vs RedHat cost in near years running, *yeah its sounds bias, but then it always does when ur on the other side  From what i've seen, Linux manages to cannabalize its own similar corporate adoption , eg, replacing AIXs, Unix or other expensive Unix based systems, replacing Windows Server is hardly true, maybe in hosting companies and that is just due to costing. I have talked to several hosting companies in Malaysia, if SmarterMail was cheaper, they won't even use linux even though its free, the "proprietary" Smartermail outdone the linux qmail/postfix and support is a breeze. (no, they don't favor Exchange even if its becomes cheaper, qualification to manage Exchange server = high cost). - cheers Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: Rasa sedih pula bila rakan dalam sebuah agensi beritahu dia perlu tukarkan Linux Centos yang saya pasang lama dahulu kepada Windows server. I will not against it because we have to acknowledge one thing. Im keep on hearing to people move to another software or os due to support issses. We dont have I single point of contact that can be a help to them. They don't care it Redhat, Novell or Canonical what they want is a single point of contact. Yes. We have e-marketplace OSCC MAMPU. But it still just a directory listing. What we need a toll number that people can talk to and get more information about Open Source where and who they can get help... RTFM is not working. Don't ask me to ask them to read the RTFM. We talking about losing market share after years of promotion due to our ignorance or let say it. Our egos... We keep on asking OSS users to read RTFM but its not real help to them... We need one centre or one community that willing to answer phone calls, email or visit sites, like any bussiness will do to keep customers still interest. We need marketing and sales team virtually in our OSS community. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---