Terima kasih kerana memberi keprihatinan yang mendalam walaupun saya bukanlah mengunakan nickname female yang mampu menarik perhatian sptmn yg lain. Kita semua tahu bahawa setiap amalan kita bergerak dari niat (as our friend thinks sex is a good intention, but it is, as part of nature).

Pada asasnya, sesebuah gerakan NGO meletakkan niat yang bersifat visi atau visionary dan bukannya kebajikan atau welfare semata-mata. Ya, memang ada welfare dalam gerak-kerja kita, dan saya terlibat secara langsung apabila mengeluarkan rahsia-rahsia kod dan kaedah ERP kepada dunia selama 7 tahun kebelakangan ini. Negara kita pun ada kebajikan - Kementerian Kebajikan namanya. Tetapi cubalah mintak. Takkan dapat, kerana syaratnya ketat. Lagipun bukanlah niat negara kita atau mana-mana negara (hatta negara Komunis) mampu bersifat kebajikan tanpa sesebuah visi yang membina ekonomi negara. Itu sebabnya negara komunis amat gagal kerana tiada insentif besar yang diletakkan di depan mata kita (selain seks bagi nafsu-nafsi kelas lebih bawah).

Bagi kita yang ingin memperjuangkan sesuatu bukan setakat periuk nasi masing-masing, tetapi kebaikan untuk generasi akan, hendaklah melihat kepada fungsi politik yang lebih wajar, iaitu kembali kepada apa asasnya atau maksudnya sesebuah gerakan NGO. Kita mampu sebagai NGO dan perlu sebagai dasar untuk berdepan dengan establishment kerana sifat NGO adalah pressure group (selain cooperative grouping atau welfare interest). Sedihnya ramai daripada kita terutamanya dalam kerajaan hari ini tidak membaca social contract Voltaire dimana apabila rakyat sudah membayar sejumlah cukai yang besar dari segala aktiviti ekonominya, maka kerajaan mempunyai tanggungjawab mengembalikan jumlah tersebut dengan setimpalnya.

Ramai yang menganggap seolah perjuangan kita adalah kebajikan semata-mata dan seolah-olah kita perlu mengemis dengan ihsan kerajaan untuk mendapat secebis perhatian atau peruntukkan.

No, that is blady nonsensical. Ini adalah hak mutlak kita, sebagai rakyat, yang berlesen pengundi, ber IC biru, berumur akil baligh dan Law Abiding Citizens untuk mendapat layanan yg sewajarnya.

Tetapi setakat ini kita tidak bergerak lebih daripada yang remeh-temeh dan biasa. Kita perlu mengeluarkan satu memoranda keras kepada kerajaan (do them a favour) supaya mengambil perhatian yang serius dan mengotakan apa jua janji dari MDec misalnya.

I believe the PM is not even aware of us nor aware that MDec has failed in its job. It is not MDec's role to tell its boss if it fails. It is the job of the NGOs.

Get it? Sexists included. :)

Yours Sincerely,
Red1

On 2/27/11 4:59 PM, simpleLinux wrote:
good1... +1!

for this I agreed.. ;p rather than using the name of the government (that wuz done by **1**) we can arise and show the world what FOSS *in general can do. let's get into the crowd and support the Open Source community Malaysia... we can form a big communities of of the smaller communities..... we can contribute something instead of just criticizing like the world is ours.. so that we can share codes, or at least share information.. theehee xD 



On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <[email protected]> wrote:
Red1

The adhoc committee is here red1. Its all of us in this list. What we
are doing now in this list and discussion and meetup is the kick ass,
to the government.

But we are doing it in our way.

We need to show to GOV that OSS community is here. We need to have
workshops of OSS knowledge sharing across Malaysia, we need to have
IPTA and IPTS to have OSS day, we need to get big conference one a
year going at our own "tahrir square", we need contribution upstream
start from Pasukan Terjemahan, we need to push for certification in
OSS, so big-big companies can invest here and use our human resources.

We need to have a bigger crowd of OSS contributors and supporter in
Malaysia so we can have the political mileage. The biggest crowd in
OSS.

To tell you the truth, we don't have that mileage yet. We need to
buildup our community first.

We need community leaders, OSS community teach us everyone can
contribute, so everyone can be a leaders. This leaders need to get
their community going and need to set their goal right.

We in OSDC.my (this list) will try to cater all the above but its all
depend from the support of all OSS community in Malaysia.

Their is NO unwritten policy of supporting proprietary software, its a
written policy to pick the right company and software that can cater
to agencies need. The most important are the support and kumpulan
pakar (expert).

And we in OSS industry, lack of its. I could not point to any local
OSS company that can have better support in OSS or have thats many
engineers, developers and management with OSS support.

And for menjadi pelobi. Yes we still can have that but we need to
prepare facts and figure. How big is the demand for OSS, how big is
our community and what impact can we have in term of economy.

Red1 Im in for this adhoc committee, but we  need to disscuss points
and facts that we can used if we want this kumpulan pelobi to success.

and

Thank You to friends in MDeC and MAMPU thats keep on supporting us. If
you want them to keep on supporting us, we need to keep them in OSS
porfolio or seksyen. To do that we need to show numbers and support to
their bosses. Baru senang kita hendak melobi dan mereka membantu.

Komuniti OSS buka sahaja mengajar saya tentang gotong royong melakukan
sesuatu, malah jika mahu membuktikan sesuatu kita perlu melakukan ia
dahulu baru kita boleh minta orang lain turut bersama kita.

Thank you.

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:58 PM, red1 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear fellow inmates, i mean freedom fighters. Sorry for this but after
> watching lots of Al-Jazeerah, it finally hits me. We should no longer be
> afraid of voicing out our grievances against govt's depts inefficiencies and
> failures in promoting local talent or at least believing in locals as
> budding technopreneurs who can one day succeed, given real support instead
> of intimidation.
>
> No, no i am not saying that we are living under a 30 year dictatorship. I am
> saying we are living in a P. Ramlee's era of been afraid to voice out and
> that is why P. Ramlee died a pauper, broken man, broken in by his own
> country.
>
> What Tahrir's Square teaches us is that today's youth and mostly in OSDC.my
> are indeed hungry for change and self-sufficiency in using FOSS, but lacked
> the support the govt supposedly is there for, which sadly comes in bits and
> scraps, some big RM10m promise and then silence and denials as well as
> diversions and excuses. We are worse than Tahrir Square.
>
> Such big events happening across the thousand year history of Sahara desert
> must bring something home to us. It must at least stir us to reach for more
> solidarity and courage to kick ass. I once again call for the formation of
> an adhoc committee (non-registered, to hell with ROS) for MOSS to put
> political pressure on the govt to change the unwritten policy of supporting
> proprietary software and paying lip service to FOSS all this while.
>
> red1
>
 

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