Well it seems the company has its direction wrong.

Nobody will fall for a "Flash"-y site anymore. If any, most of us,
with the exception for Youtube couldn't care less for flash.

Eric


On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
<jipangmenje...@gmail.com> wrote:
> unfortunately I got friends working with asiatalk..
> touche :p
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
> <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Don't know who is behind Asiatalk. It speaks volumes when you get to a
>> website that is fluffed by Flash and nothing else.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > hi Eric and all,
>> >
>> > noted; I got the IBM link from this page:
>> >
>> > http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1/study_materials/new_exam_preparation_resources_for_revised_lpic_exams
>> >
>> > and it says the materials may be updated. The doc on the link was was
>> > dated Aug 2009.
>> >
>> > I followed and clicked the various links, most of the others are not
>> > in English, or require you to pay/sign-up for a course before you can
>> > see the syllabus (I did not try very hard to search..). The IBM site
>> > showed that info quite clearly, so that's how I ended up there. I put
>> > it on this list for those who want to see what the syllabus is like.
>> > Its pretty comprehensive, and I may not be able to pass this!
>> >
>> > BTW who are these guys?
>> >    http://lpi.asiatalk.com.my   <-- from GoogleAds
>> >
>> > I went to their website, they talk about LPI but nothing about
>> > themselves .., who are the trainers, their background, ...
>> > Are they part of any FLOSS community, or someone out to make a quick
>> > buck?
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>> > <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Boh,
>> >>
>> >> The one at the IBM site me thinks is the old syllabus. LPI is
>> >> developed by a consortium of vendors including people like Novell, IBM
>> >> & Red Hat. The certification program itself is considered neutral and
>> >> applicable to moat distros.
>> >>
>> >> As for the syllabus always check the LPI site for the latest and moat
>> >> concise one.
>> >>
>> >> Eric
>> >>
>> >> On Wednesday, March 30, 2011, Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Eric,
>> >>>
>> >>> so does that mean they don't recognize LPI? If so too bad...
>> >>>
>> >>> FYI, I managed to track down a sort of syllabus, this is from IBM
>> >>> Developer Works, and yes IBM recognises and supports LPI, does that
>> >>> make it a 'vendor certification' ? Its no different from Red Hat's
>> >>> whom I believe IBM also offers...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/linux/l-lpic1-v3-map/l-lpic1-v3-map-pdf.pdf
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>> >>> <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Boh,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> LPI is part of their Core Competency programme.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But since the Govt is too used to the "vendor" system, they tend to
>> >>>> only appreciate vendor certifications.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Eric
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> hi all,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI.... I came
>> >>>>> across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
>> >>>>> interesting and different.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> if you go to LPI:
>> >>>>>    http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
>> >>>>>    http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It will explain it.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> From what I interprete... as stated:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "...does not have an "official" single method of test preparation.
>> >>>>> We
>> >>>>> encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together
>> >>>>> within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and
>> >>>>> innovation"
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are
>> >>>>> developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing
>> >>>>> back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own'
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly
>> >>>>> developed it.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also
>> >>>>> evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as
>> >>>>> stated:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each
>> >>>>> others and train by them self and share with others how to become
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> trainers. The topic will be discuss are:..."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will
>> >>>>> have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>> recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?)
>> >>>>> Will
>> >>>>> Malaysia gov. recognise LPI?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed,
>> >>>>> the trainers have to have a very "Open Source mindset", ie: they
>> >>>>> have
>> >>>>> to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they
>> >>>>> have learnt. Our standard type of  Malaysian teachers will not work,
>> >>>>> those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The first way will create skillful and capable students.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in
>> >>>>> exam,
>> >>>>> but have little skills and won't know how to solve problems.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I hope we don't go down the 1st path... but a lot depends on the
>> >>>>> trainees!
>> >>>>> I hope the selection is done with care...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>> >>>>> <linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Its will not limited to 10 persons. After this first batch, we will
>> >>>>>> trained more. Lets us make sure this batch success and then expand
>> >>>>>> it
>> >>>>>> to others. Top20 Top50 maybe.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM,  <ta...@sabily.my> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Pendapat saya, anda boleh memohon. Nanti dia akan buat senarai
>> >>>>>>> pendek untuk
>> >>>>>>> pemilihan 10 orang tu.
>> >>>>>>> Good luck!
>> >>>>>>
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