As Nicolas said before, 8.5 is not real - its just an alpha. Probably it 
takes two years from now, before my customers start asking for it. Maybe 
  it's different in enterprises, but as far as i know, they are much 
more conservative than the usual webuser. So, beside singular inhouse 
products, there it not a real market for as3.

Maybe somebody should implement the 8.5 api in as2 to make it usable now?

Cheers,
Ralf.




Carlos Rovira wrote:

> Ok Ralf,
> 
> I think that Nicolas idea is very good, and very very respetable. But
> maybe this could be a solution targeted for people how loves this kind
> of technologies, and want to play with them, and maybe some day (in a
> not near future), we could start fighting in our business, or in our
> clients to push Neko. ( for this we need frameworks, tools, servers,
> etc...)
> 
> But the reality nowadays is that Flex 2 brings all the facilities( If
> they get a fast compiler ala MTASC - this is critical and I must to
> see it to belive it). The Flex Framework, The Flex Builder 2, AS3,
> FP8.5...it's all what we were looking for an affordable price. And it
> will be here in a few months.
> 
> I think that this year was the MTASC year, but the following will be
> the Flex year.
> 
> 
> 2005/10/24, Ralf Bokelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>>No, i don't think i'm able to do that. What i did with hamtasc is just
>>hacking against a working codebase. Building such a thing from ground
>>up, is an entire different story. Also, if i really wanted to implement
>>some language, it would be Lisp. ;)
>>
>>I'm really looking forward to Nicolas' approach. Nicolas new system of
>>translating to Neko frees the community from slavishly following the
>>development of ActionScript. It enables us to test our own languages or
>>even to implement AS3 on it, if you really need it. That's real choice,
>>the promise of open source, as far as i understand.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Ralf,
>>
>>
>>Carlos Rovira wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ralf,
>>>
>>>I don't want to say that you *MUST* to get the torch :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>2005/10/24, Carlos Rovira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ralf,
>>>>
>>>>I'm not following the entire disscusion in this thread, but I must to
>>>>point that If MTASC don't go the AS3 way...I'm afraid that almost the
>>>>rest of OS Flash Proyects are certainly dead.
>>>>
>>>>ASDT > Enterprises will choose to pay the Flex Builder 2 license.
>>>>ActionStep - ASWing > Will be a toys compared with Flex 2 Framework based 
>>>>on AS3
>>>>etc....
>>>>
>>>>I'll remember the "AS1 to AS2" change, and too much people say that
>>>>they didn't want to move to AS2. Sure that a lot of those people now
>>>>is coding in AS2.
>>>>
>>>>Now the change is even more necesary, and we can't rely in MTASC if
>>>>there's no AS3 update plans.
>>>>
>>>>I think that you are the only public man with your skills and HAMTASC
>>>>capable of create an MTASC-AS3.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>2005/10/24, Ralf Bokelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>To base dicussions like "The future of MTASC" on facts instead of
>>>>>uncertainty, it would be nice to know, how many people are actually
>>>>>using it. A lot of other questions come into my mind too. For example,
>>>>>how many people are still using AS1? As far as i can see from the posts
>>>>>at the german flashforum, this rate still is about 97 percent.
>>>>>
>>>>>I wonder, if the osflash wiki gives us the possibility to built such a 
>>>>>poll?
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Ralf.
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>::| http://www.carlosrovira.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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