I am not familar enough with these projects to know what their issues
might or might not be. But just to be clear, I believe the issue of
whether or not protocols can be reverse engineered is settled law.

http://news.com.com/Judges+OK+garage+door+openers+in+copyright+case/2100-1028_3-5341625.html

Of course, people can sue over anything, and that is a risk. People
sue over things about which there is no merit, and that could easily
include adobe. They have done so in the past.

In the case linked to above the court of appeals clarifies what should
be obvious. Copyright law cannot be used to prevent people from
reverse engineering communication protocols for interoperability. Now
Adobe could potentially claim that under the EULA, that they restrict
such reverse engineering. Now I  think it is unlikely that the courts
will support that position since there are no known cases that support
that in the context of communications software. Moreover, it is
entirely possible to reverse engineer a protocol for these products
without agreeing to a eula. Flash is accessible without even click
signing a eula because it comes embedded in browsers and computers.

The bottom line is that the court stands firmly on the side of
companies who wish to create interoperable products. But, it is always
possible that Adobe could use the threat of lawsuit, regardless of how
baseless, to throw cold water on movements that dont have the funding
to fight.

Hank

On 10/25/05, Mike Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why do you assume they have no issues?
>
> mike chambers
>
>
> Thomas Wester wrote:
> > Thanks for the heads up Aral.
> >
> > However I fail to see a clear connection with the MTASC future
> > discussion. The Red5 or amfphp projects have no issues with
> > deconstruction the AMF protocol I can't see how deconstructing a f8.5
> > .swf is any different.
> >
>
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