> Then we both respectfully disagree.

me too; even the idea of such a language makes me feel ill

On 11/1/05, Cortlandt Winters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then we both respectfully disagree. I have never taken a passing glance at
> applescript, but that link doesn't convince me of anything other than it's
> good to have a compiler with error messages, that it's good to know your
> language well and that people get frustrated with their mistakes.
>
>  And it's not the shades of meaning, but the gramatical constructs that are
> the focus here, subsets of natural language can be well formalized and have
> been proven to be very usefull. Do while, for all in, if else, I'd like to
> see set operations, message passing and grammars in languages go a step
> further in this direction.
>
>  Also there are whole categorys of parsing based on things like
> conditionalized internal states and state query mechanisms that have yet to
> make it into popular languages as big features, but which is critical to how
> people communicate and would be hugely usefull to the small domain of
> application programming over a network. "Put those onions in the cupboard.
> That cupboard? No, the one to it's left." When grammars and protocols are a
> part of your programming language instead of what you use to generate static
> ones and zero's that kind of interchange becomes easy to program and leads
> to more flexible and interesting programs. Since this language will be
> passing a lot over the wire, I'd say it is worth thinking about.
>
>  Anyway, not that I think Nico has any interest in this, but he asked what
> we'd like. That's what I'd like. Things like classes for grammars and
> protocols and a syntax that reads naturally.
>
>  -Cort
>
>
> On 11/1/05, Benjamin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Oct 28, 2005, at 2:46 AM, Cortlandt Winters wrote:
> > >  I really liked a language called toolbook written in the early 90's
> > > because the code could be written to read like a natural language.
> > >
> > >  "to handle buttonclick send rotateview to gyro and put green key into
> > > first word of second paragraph of table layout"
> >
> > I have to respectfully disagree. Anyone who's taken even a passing
> > glance at Applescript will tell you that natural language programming
> > languages end up looking like anything but...
> >
> > John Gruber expressed this much more eloquently than I can here:
> >
> > http://daringfireball.net/2005/09/englishlikeness_monster
> >
> > IMHO the levels of complexity and shades of meaning that human language
> > allows for are, at least for the foreseeable future, beyond what can be
> > translated into 1s and 0s.
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