Then simply write "I did not get it can you explain more detailed what this
Javaflash thing is all about? " instead of forcing him to write better
postings with all sources and links etc. included ;)
People should post things here as they like to and don't be afraid of that
somebody doesn't understand it perfectly ...
Look my last sentence: I am sure my english isn't perfect but I am not
afraid of writing ;)

Cheers,
Sönke

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von hank williams
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2005 14:05
> An: Open Source Flash Mailing List
> Betreff: Re: [osflash] An Aflax Javaflash Integration Demo
> 
> My point is pretty simple.
> 
> I dont get it.
> 
> I dont know if I was intended to. If so, then further 
> explanation is required.
> 
> Regards
> Hank
> 
> On 12/6/05, Johan Lopes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Hank,
> >
> > I have no involvement in neither of these two projects. I just think
> > they're really cool :)
> >
> > I agree with you in that the email may not have been the most
> > descriptive and is giving you the uninitiated reader or 
> someone who've
> > never heard of AFLAX or javaflash before, too "geeky" installation
> > details in one go.
> >
> > I just don't agree with the following sentence and nothing else:
> >
> > >..and there is no explanation of what your demo does,
> > >and no link to anything running.
> >
> > The part about no link to anything running got me going and hence my
> > email showing you the links to the AFLAX demo stuff.
> >
> > I thought the link below with the demo of  AFLAX/javaflash 
> integration
> > was quite clear:
> >
> > >The demo is on the trunk in
> > 
> >http://dctc.sjtu.edu.cn:81/svn/wonder/trunk/javaflash/src/jav
> a/sjtu/dctc/wonder/javaflash/demo/AflaxDemo.java
> >
> > Granted, I agree that the latter assumes you know about 
> these projects.
> >
> > Sorry, if I came across as being rude, that was not my intention.
> >
> > I hope we're sort of "agreeing to dis-agreeing" here ;-)
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >  /Johan
> >
> > On 12/6/05, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 12/6/05, Johan Lopes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I don't totally agree Hank.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I am not sure what you could possibly disagree with in my 
> statement.
> > > Do you disagree that one should describe what they are doing and
> > > provide example links in the email???
> > >
> > > > I just took a look, with great interest I might add, on 
> this page and
> > > > I'm impressed by this effort. They've made it clear 
> this is early
> > > > alpha too.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Early alpha or beta, or pre operational is irrelevant to 
> whether you
> > > can construct a clear email.
> > >
> > > There may be a number of people who are involved in what 
> he is doing
> > > and "get it" without any explanation. Maybe I am not 
> smart enough but
> > > with the info he provided in that email, I am not among them.
> > >
> > > I dont see any basis for disagreement unless you are just 
> saying that
> > > there is really plenty of info there and demos and feature
> > > descriptions are unnecessary.
> > >
> > > > Check out this page and see for yourself:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.aflax.org/#demos
> > > >
> > >
> > > the aflax page is interesting, but his email was about ****
> > > JAVAFLASH***, and all of my questions are about that.
> > >
> > > > Click on any of the examples and view the source!
> > > >
> > > > This are the steps:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Add a flash bootstrap
> > > > 2) Code some Javascript
> > > > 3) Voila your swf is done! Without using the IDE or 
> anything else.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Again... the email is about javaflash.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Hank
> > >
> > > > HTH,
> > > >
> > > > /Johan
> > > >
> > > > On 12/6/05, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Steven,
> > > > >
> > > > > Your email suggests a bunch of concepts that are 
> totally unclear to
> > > > > me, eg javaflash, and there is no explanation of what 
> your demo does,
> > > > > and no link to anything running.
> > > > >
> > > > > FWIW if you want to demo something, the best way is a 
> simple link to
> > > > > the running thing or something that *shows* what your 
> thing does. If
> > > > > this is not possible because the thing you are doing 
> is too low level
> > > > > (like a sorting algorithm or something) then you 
> should provide a
> > > > > simple clear explanation of what it is that your 
> thing does. All your
> > > > > email provides is a complex description of some internals only
> > > > > relevant to someone who is already familiar with your 
> project, and a
> > > > > description of some incredibly geeky installation 
> instructions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps your goal was only to speak to a few people 
> who you already
> > > > > know or who already know your work, but in that case 
> it doesnt seem
> > > > > like using the general mailing list would be appropriate.
> > > > >
> > > > > In any case, I presume that you would like people to 
> check out your
> > > > > stuff, and if you do, a demo link and some clear 
> description of what
> > > > > it does and the benefits would be great.
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way I did also click on the javaflash wiki 
> link where I also
> > > > > couldnt find any example links, and I was unclear as 
> to whether you
> > > > > have just implemented a java container for the flash 
> plugin, or you
> > > > > are claiming to have re-implemented flash. You talk 
> about supporting
> > > > > all the features of flash 8 which isnt relevant if 
> you have just
> > > > > implemented a container since the feature set is 
> defined by the flash
> > > > > player.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Hank
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/6/05, Steven Gong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > I have just made an interesting Aflax Javaflash 
> integration demo. Thanks to
> > > > > > the power of Rhino, I didn't do any extra work to 
> enable this. :-)
> > > > > > The demo is on the trunk in
> > > > > > 
> http://dctc.sjtu.edu.cn:81/svn/wonder/trunk/javaflash/src/java
> /sjtu/dctc/wonder/javaflash/demo/AflaxDemo.java
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some modifications to Aflax are needed to in order 
> to make it work in
> > > > > > Javaflash:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Firstly, the original Aflax library 0.33 uses 
> 'callback' parameter in url to
> > > > > > decide the callback but it does not work locally, 
> so we sticked the callback
> > > > > > to 'main'. This needs to modify aflax.as and we 
> have provided a modified
> > > > > > version of swf in
> > > > > > 
> http://dctc.sjtu.edu.cn:81/svn/wonder/trunk/javaflash/misc/Afl
> ax-JF.swf
> > > > > > and the diff of as in
> > > > > > 
> http://dctc.sjtu.edu.cn:81/svn/wonder/trunk/javaflash/misc/afl
> ax.as.diff
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Secondly, you need to modify the callback name in 
> examples to 'main' which
> > > > > > in some cases was 'go'.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Finally, you need to copy aflax.js into $JAVAFLASH_HOME/misc
> > > > > > The main class needs one parameter for the location 
> of your js file. For
> > > > > > example, the example 'drawing2' of Aflax has a js 
> file 'drawing2.js'. You
> > > > > > need to copy the drawing2.js somewhere, modify it 
> and set up the location of
> > > > > > it to the parameter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are done here. But that will be more. You can 
> add Java calls to JS now.
> > > > > > Enjoy! ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NOTICE: Examples that use extra js libs and HTML 
> DOM methods are not
> > > > > > supported in Javaflash and those examples may not 
> work properly. If you want
> > > > > > to run the video example, you need to copy the flv 
> file to a location and
> > > > > > modify the path in JS to be relative to the 
> location of Aflax-JF.swf.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > > Steven Gong
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