Nice to hear some positive words from you Mike.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Mike Chambers
Sent: 06 December 2005 17:44
To: Open Source Flash Mailing List
Subject: Re: [osflash] Anyone seen the Macromedia.com site Lately?

Yes. We have been very supportive of open source Flash. This has 
included contributing code and projects to the open source community 
(more coming soon), evangelizing OsFlash.org at keynotes and 
conferences, and actively participating in the community.

However, there seems to be the assumption developing that because we 
have not specifically blessed some projects, that somehow that lessens 
our commitment / support to the open source Flash community.

We are very supportive of the open source Flash community. It adds value

to the platform for developers, and introduces the platform to 
developers who might not otherwise be interested in checking it out.

Of course, we are more excited / interested in some projects than 
others, but I would image the same holds true for most developers in the

community.

As has been mentioned a couple of times, we are actively working to 
resolve outstanding questions / issues, as well as provide a more formal

communication on our thoughts on open source.

However, as there are quite a few people involved in that discussion at 
Adobe, this will take some time.

mike chambers

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Tim Beynart wrote:
> David Mendels spoke to a Flex class I attended in Boston a few weeks 
> ago, and was eloquent and supportive in his discussions of OS as it 
> relates to Macrodobe's goals. While the details are up to him to 
> discuss, I came away with the impression that he and his company have
a 
> progressive and open minded approach to the OS community.
>  
> P.S. David, I meant no offense with my comment about MX2004 
> documentation ;-)
>  
> - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Tim Beynart
> Athens, GA, USA
> - - - - - - - - - - - -
>  
> 
>
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> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> *On Behalf Of *David Mendels
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:08 AM
> *To:* Open Source Flash Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [osflash] Anyone seen the Macromedia.com site Lately?
> 
> Hi,
>  
> to be clear, I meant this in the sense of "topics".  We have ongoing 
> discussions about how we work with the OS community, what we should
open 
> source, what we should publish, etc.
>  
> -David
> 
>
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>     *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Freddie(r)
Cristalab
>     *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2005 10:52 PM
>     *To:* Open Source Flash Mailing List
>     *Subject:* Re: [osflash] Anyone seen the Macromedia.com site
Lately?
> 
>     issues?
> 
>     2005/12/5, David Mendels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
> 
>         Hi,
> 
>         I am not aware of any specific plans in the near term, but
Kevin
>         (and I
>         and others) are continuing discussing a number  of issues
related to
>         Flash and Open Source with our new Adobe colleagues.
> 
>         _David
> 
>          > -----Original Message-----
>          > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>          > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Richard
Kilmer
>          > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 8:21 PM
>          > To: Open Source Flash Mailing List
>          > Subject: Re: [osflash] Anyone seen the Macromedia.com
>         <http://Macromedia.com> site Lately?
>          >
>          >
>          > On Dec 5, 2005, at 6:22 PM, John Grden wrote:
>          >
>          > > Hey Dave, we'd really like to hear from Adobe about there
>          > stance on OS
>          > > - are they planning to reach out to the community in
anyway
>          > real soon?
>          >
>          > Adobe has opened their ASL stuff to open-source:
>          >
>          > http://opensource.adobe.com/
>          >
>          >  From the abstract:
>          >
>          > This document serves as an overview to the Adobe Source
>          > Libraries (ASL). The goal of ASL is to develop the
technology
>          > necessary to construct commercial applications by
assembling
>          > generic algorithms through declarative descriptions.
>          >
>          > The first two significant libraries in ASL are known as
Adam
>          > and Eve.
>          > They are components for modeling the human interface
>          > appearance and behavior in a software application. Adam and
>          > Eve are described along with related libraries.
>          >
>          > ASL is a project within the Adobe Software Technology Lab
>          > (STLab); a research group chartered with increasing
developer
>          > productivity and software quality through better
technologies
>          > and education.
>          >
>          > Adobe Begin is a sample application aimed at implementing
the
>          > ideas expressed herein. A Widget Reference is available to
>          > assist users in the creation of dialogs. There are also
many
>          > prebuilt dialogs provided from which you can learn by
example.
>          >
>          >
>          > -rich
>          >
>          > >
>          > > On 12/5/05, David Mendels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>          > > Hi,
>          > >
>          > > I am still around too :) (At Macromedia Kevin and I ran
the
>         Flash
>          > > Player, Flex, ColdFusion, Flash authoring and Dreamweaver
>         product
>          > > lines....at Adobe, I run the Flex product line,
ColdFusion,
>          > and Adobe
>          > > LiveCycle).  Tom Hale is still around too...his team
builds
>          > Breeze and
>          > > Flash Media Server and now he also runs Acrobat.  I think
>          > you will see
>          > > a LOT of familiar names at Adobe.
>          > >
>          > > Just starting to talk with folks there about open
source....
>          > >
>          > > Regards,
>          > > David
>          > > Adobe
>          > >
>          > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:osflash-
>         <mailto:osflash->
>          > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On
Behalf
>         Of Jake Freeberg
>          > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:11 PM
>          > > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>          > > Subject: [osflash] Anyone seen the Macromedia.com
>         <http://Macromedia.com> site Lately?
>          > >
>          > > I'd hope that there really is no need for any discussion
of
>         this in
>          > > the Flash Community, but we're now Adobe Developers, not
>         Macromedia
>          > > Developers.
>          > >
>          > >
>          > > I've tried to do a little reading, but does anyone want
to talk
>          > > about what this might mean for open source Flash?
>          > >
>          > >
>          > > Kevin Lynch is still around, but did we loose anyone in
>         this merger?
>          > >
>          > >
>          > > _______________________________________________
>          > > osflash mailing list
>          > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>          > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
>          > >
>          > >
>          > >
>          > >
>          > >
>          > > --
>          > > John Grden - Blitz
>          > > _______________________________________________
>          > > osflash mailing list
>          > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>          > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
>          >
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> 
>     -- 
>     Freddie(r) Cristalab
>     http://www.cristalab.com/ 
> 
> 
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