You mention that nothing is rapid in Java.  I think that all depends on what you
are doing, and what libraries and frameworks you are utilizing.  That could be a
long debate though, so I won't say anymore then that on the subject.  

The funny thing is that Luke Hubbard has written a pretty nifty AMF server in
Java that utilizes the Spring framework, Jetty, and Rhino.  It's called Spark
and can be found here: http://osflash.org/spark . This implementation in Java
allows one to script the server side in JavaScript or Java if you want to be
slow ;-).  

With this said though, Luke is now working on Red5 ( http://osflash.org/red5 )
and has stopped developing Spark.   The functionality that is in Spark is being
ported to Red5, thus it might be a really good alternative for your remoting
project in the near future.  Red5 will be a lot like Spark in that you will be
able to script the server-side in JavaScript or Java, and will take advantage of
Spring's application context.  The beauty of Red5 however, is that you will also
be able to access the same server-side objects through AMF (remoting) or through
RTMP.  Common application logic can be used by both. For example a SharedObject
might update a database through Hibernate.  Then your AMF calls can access the
data through the same interface on the server.  There are really so many
possibilities, and we are really exited about it.

Anyway, at the very least I hope it gives you some more options to think about.

-Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Bob Ippolito
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:29 PM
To: Open Source Flash Mailing List
Subject: Re: [osflash] Best remoting system

On Jan 5, 2006, at 2:13 PM, gilles Bertrand wrote:

> i've got a new projekt coming in remoting and instead of using
> coldfusion, il would like to know what the best and rapid remoing
> system you would use ??
>
> openamf
> amfphp
> python-amf
> coldfusion

For rapid prototyping I'd probably choose amfphp or coldfusion.   
Nothing is rapid in Java, and I've never heard of "python-amf".  If  
it's last years alpha port of AMF::Perl to Python then I'd stay very  
far away from it.

It is possible to use TurboGears and flashticle to do remoting with  
Python, and it's probably good for rapid development, but I just  
wrote that code last weekend and I haven't tried it for anything but  
the trivial stuff.  I'm also not currently planning to use remoting  
for anything in the near future, so it's pretty much unsupported.

-bob



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