Mathematical proofs...I guess the basic idea of proofs is that if you have a 
mathematical idea, you can prove that it's true under certain conditions. An 
easy example would be proving that multiplying two odd numbers always results 
in an odd number. Here's a wikipedia link: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_proofs. 

Proofs in computer science goes on to include calculating the time 
complexibility of problems (although it doesn't look as if its covered in the 
class mentioned). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_complexity_theory

And I only say avoid them because they aren't too much fun (with some 
exceptions).

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Sent:   Mon 1/30/2006 11:39 AM
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Subject:        Re: [osflash] [OFF-TOPIC] Handling Math

What do you mean by "proofs" and that we should avoid it?

- Marcelo.

Scott Hyndman wrote:

>>http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Electrical-Engineering-and-Computer-Science/6-042JMathematics-for-Computer-ScienceFall2002/CourseHome/index.htm
>>    
>>
>
>This looks like a smattering of everything. A lot of programmers would benefit 
>from knowing some stats and algorithm analysis, but it also looks like this 
>course deals with some proofs...and believe me, they should be avoided if 
>possible. ;)
>
>Scott
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tim Scollick
>Sent:  Mon 1/30/2006 9:11 AM
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>Subject:       Re: [osflash] [OFF-TOPIC] Handling Math
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>That's a good idea.  This is probably the link that he sent you:
>
>http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Electrical-Engineering-and-Computer-Science/index.htm
>
>and specifically:
>http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Electrical-Engineering-and-Computer-Science/6-042JMathematics-for-Computer-ScienceFall2002/CourseHome/index.htm
>
>On 1/30/06, Johannes Nel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>MIT have a whole range of free lectures availible that Alias pointed out to
>>me a while ago as well, maybe you still have the link somewhere?
>>
>>
>>On 1/30/06, Alias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi Marcelo
>>>
>>>Here's the OU page on overseas learning:
>>>
>>>http://www3.open.ac.uk/courses/about/p7.shtml
>>>
>>>I'm not sure if they offer the same range of courses for overseas
>>>students, because some of them require a degree of communication with
>>>a tutor, however it's worth looking through anyway.
>>>
>>>HTH,
>>>Alias
>>>
>>>On 1/30/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Hi Alias, thanks a lot for the links to the books ;)
>>>>
>>>>I must say I became a lot interested on the Open University. Currently
>>>>I´m kind o idle, only working as a freelancer and studying myself when I
>>>>need, but I would really like a degree on the area of information
>>>>technology/mathematics. I started a computer science course here in my
>>>>city but had to drop out due to finantial reasons (having to support the
>>>>transport, food, learning material and pay the course as well was too
>>>>much for me). I currently live in Brazil, could you give some more
>>>>information on the courses and their worldwide avaiability? (Well, as a
>>>>self-taught institution, I think theirs abrangence is world-wide
>>>>        
>>>>
>>naturally);
>>    
>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Marcelo.
>>>>
>>>>Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>HI Marcelo.
>>>>>
>>>>>I was sinilarly disinterested in maths, but since I started working
>>>>>with flash I've become more and more aware of the potential practical
>>>>>applications of it. Now, I'm currently studying for a degree in
>>>>>Computing and Mathematical sciences with the Open University, which is
>>>>>a self taught learning institution.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'd say that their tuition may not be for everyone, but my experience
>>>>>is that the more I learn about maths, the more possibilities open up
>>>>>to me, both in terms of creativity, and efficiency.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway - I'm not sure what level you're at, but for learning the
>>>>>basics (high-school/second level) I must highly recommend the
>>>>>"Complete Idiot's Guide" books:
>>>>>
>>>>>The Complete Idiot's Guide to Algebra
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1592571611/sr=1-1/qid=1138586560/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7563523-4994526?%5Fencoding=UTF8
>>    
>>
>>>>>The Complete Idiot's Guide to Geometry
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1592571832/ref=pd_sim_b_1/102-7563523-4994526?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155
>>    
>>
>>>>>These are the only maths books that have ever made me laugh out loud.
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, Keith Peters' new book:
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590595181/sr=1-1/qid=1138586756/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7563523-4994526?%5Fencoding=UTF8
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>covers some great maths stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>HTH,
>>>>>Alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 1/23/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>I often find myself struggling when it comes to math, even though
>>>>>>through the time I managed to overcome many of my math-related limits.
>>>>>>My high-school did not help at all to learn even the basics stuff of
>>>>>>this onipresent science. I was forced to take the few elements I had
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>and
>>    
>>
>>>>>>to learn everything myself. It may be a stupid question, but what do
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>you
>>    
>>
>>>>>>do when you go into a problem that requires some math, in sum, math
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>can
>>    
>>
>>>>>>solve everything and make your life easir - if you know how to use it.
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>I
>>    
>>
>>>>>>find it an interesting question here mainly becouse of the graphics
>>>>>>designers that, when developing in flash, had to face a "math
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>challenge".
>>    
>>
>>>>>>Things like centering an element in the screen could get very
>>>>>>complicated for me... x)  recently I´ve been taking notes of all the
>>>>>>patterns (formulas) I´ve found through codes, this helps me a lot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I was thinking about buying some books, but math is all about practice
>>>>>>and I don´t have the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Share your thought if ur feeling to, you could end helping someone
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>(me,
>>    
>>
>>>>>>for example!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Marcelo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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