lol, claus got an extra 'e' in there somehow... and became a clause!  
like santa!


On Sep 15, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Geoff Stearns wrote:

> Well, I agree with clause on the whole 'why bother with xhtml/xml
> mime types...
>
> But some people have legitimate uses for it, so that's cool.
>
> Here's the thing about supporting it: using the DOM to create the
> embed and object tags is a HUGE pain in the ass. Nearly every browser
> has it's own quirks and things you have to work around to get it
> working in each one. so because of this it bloats the file size by
> quite a bit compared to using a simple innerHTML call.
>
> Then on top of that, you add in the fact that people building
> websites that are coded like that are so few, (there's like 50 total
> that i know of - out of the billions and billions of websites out
> there) then you start to think that it's not really worth it.
>
> Then, as if that's not enough, you hear standards advocates talking
> about how xhtml (proper) is basically a failed language anyway, and
> that HTML is really the way to go for web stuff, then you start to
> think that it's an even bigger waste of time.
>
> So as of now, I have no plans to put any work into making SWFObject
> work with application/xhtml+xml websites.
>
> Now, that said, I want to point out that in the last few revs of
> firefox, they added innerHTML support for application/xhtml+xml
> websites, which made SWFObject start working.
>
> Here's a test page I put together (i just adjusted it to use this new
> 2.0 update) and you can see it will display the flash movie (at least
> in firefox). but keep in mind that this isn't exactly 'proper'
> support and i'm not sure i would rely on it for a big production
> website.
>
> http://blog.deconcept.com/code/flashobjectxml.php
>
> Bobby has put together support for xhtml+xml stuff in UFO, and he
> actually advertises it, so i'd say use that instead of swfobject if
> you are really worried about that stuff.
>
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Claus Wahlers wrote:
>
>> Michael Stuhr wrote:
>>
>>> Claus Wahlers schrieb:
>>>> Geoff, i'm not entirely sure but i think i read somewhere that
>>>> SWFObject
>>>> doesn't work with XHTML documents served as 'application/xhtml
>>>> +xml'? I'm
>>>> serving most of my documents with that mimetype (to clients that
>>>> support
>>>> it). Is there a problem or am i imagining things?
>>> why do you do that ? (rhetorical)
>>> read
>>> http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/faq.html#accept
>>> says can /should
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-media-types/
>>> says te same, but
>>> http://schneegans.de/web/xhtml/
>>> has some good point too.
>>
>> http://www.hixie.ch/advocacy/xhtml
>> He has a point too.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> -- 
>> claus wahlers
>> cĂ´deazur brasil
>> http://codeazur.com.br
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