Hi Zach,

No as it's polygonal geometry. My light is also a 3D object, not light point.
For me this is approriate as they are small lights that would appear dimmer,
and hence have less "glow", when seen far away.

Thinking about it lights like street lights might need to remain still quite
bright as you move far away and the normal perspective foreshortening would
reduce the glow too much.

Regards, Simon
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Hi Simon,

Looks good.  If you zoomed in on one of the halos, would it shrink like a
light point does?


Zach

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Yes, glow is uniform from all directions. Here's a screen snap to show how
it looks in my application.

The offset billboard trick was good enough for me avoiding the effort of
hooking up specific run-time coding. I guess some kind of generic run-time
interface could be constructed but of course would get progressively heavier
the more light halos you have.

(Embedded image moved to file: pic22312.jpg)

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Is the glow uniform from all aspects?

The reason I ask this sounds similar to work I did for a lightpoint halo,
which is uniform, but does not intersect with geometry and disappears when
the light source is occluded.

-B

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> I've had the same problem in the past and my solution, purely on the
> modelling side, was to offset my glow polygon along the axes that
points
> towards the eye (+Y I think). Then the billboard is positioned at the
> light source but the glow is drawn a little closer towards the eye. So
> as
you
> look
> more obliquely, the glow polygon is not immediately clipped in half.
It
> does
> start to get clipped at some angle but the effect is much less
serious.
> For
> me it was adequate for all my small lights in the scene and you might
need
> to
> experiment with the offset distance which depnds on the light size. I
used
> the occlusion method too but only for really bright objects like the
sun
> with
> lens flare etc.
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> Regards, Simon
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> No now I think about it, that wouldn't work. What you need is for the
> actual depth test to depend on the sprite centre, which can't be done
> with
the
> usual
> z-test. Sounds like the occlusion test is the way forward.
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> How about a billboard sprite shader that takes z depth from the sprite
> centre?
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> Hmmm, looks like there is no simple solution.  For now, I'll just try
to
> offset the light points more, and put the more elegant solutions on
the
> back
> burner.  Thanks for all the ideas everyone.
>
>
>
> Zach
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>  I don't care if the light point occludes objects within a few meters.
> Would
>  using a PolygonOffset work with a meter offset?
> I believe PolygonOffset won't work for you when viewing the light at
an
> obtuse angle, say from the side, and slightly in front of, the
vehicle. In
> such a case, the further headlight would need a greater depth offset
than
> the
> near headlight to in order to completely avoid intersecting the
vehicle
> body.
>
> In general, whether PolygonOffset produces acceptable results or not
> varies depending on available depth buffer precision, and how you've
> set your near/far planes.
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