Hi Paolo, On Thu, 11. Apr 2013 at 06:22:02 +0200, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Thanks to all. I think it is important knowing also the opinion of > Juergen, since he is heavily involved in the packaging of some of the > most crucial pieces for us.
I'm more doin' and not the talking type - because when with all the talking there's no time left for the doing. ;) I asked for the particular problem you were getting complaints about. That can probably be solved, if it's a technical one. All other problems are not that easy to fix - at least not for me. My point of using OSGeo4W was to distribute QGIS and get the dependencies in a uptodate fashion almost for free. Unfortunately the second part didn't work well. Most OSGeo4w projects apparently don't recognize OSGeo4W as an easy way to distribute windows binaries and therefore either roll their own packages or ignore Windows completely (and let others produce binaries). GRASS and QGIS use OSGeo4W for nightly builds and also put out stable packages when releases occur (standalone installers are made from the same binaries; for QGIS, I that's true for GRASS, too). Most of the other packages (correcty me if I'm wrong) don't get that kind of attention and are behind - some even made once and were never touched again. Some packages that were only added because something else needed are also unmaintained and unless there is requirement (read: someone complains) to update them for some dependant, they are also left behind (python extensions, apache). I wonder how we could get (and keep) more maintainers - or the projects themselves - pulled into osgeo4w. Because now it sometimes takes begging, poking, waiting and in the end you sometimes eventually do it (almost) yourself (like the python 2.7 transition) - maybe leaving optional stuff behind - also if that users complain ((proprietary) GDAL extensions, python-rpy). Having a VM with all the sources and recipes on a single machine from a vcs sounds like an option to make everything easier to maintain - not sure how that would scale - if we really got more maintainers. And that means we're going to put work to reproduce what we have instead of moving forward - not that's a bad thing, but maybe noteworthy. And before I'm postponing this again (and again), I'm sending it out this time... ;) Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 _______________________________________________ osgeo4w-dev mailing list osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev